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ECHO Comment: "Fears of Witch-hunt Against Liverpool FC" part 2

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Can't wait for the excuse.
Someone hacked his email
Someone hacked his txt messages
Someone was earwigging in some coffee shop
It wasn't him
It was Chelsea
He was in bed asleep
Its all West Brom's fault
He's sick and needs counselling
Or some other whopper
Did you hear the two excuses this morning on transport 1.A sports news reader said that what Daniel had in his favour was that he is a Christian and therefore not allowed to bet.2 Alan Brazil said it was the bookies fault for offering odds of 25/1 that he would go to West brom who would not have a go at those odds.
 
Did you hear the two excuses this morning on transport 1.A sports news reader said that what Daniel had in his favour was that he is a Christian and therefore not allowed to bet.2 Alan Brazil said it was the bookies fault for offering odds of 25/1 that he would go to West brom who would not have a go at those odds.
Shame you couldn't get 25/1 for him getting injured after about ten minutes and him hardly playing for the rest of the season.
 
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All the bedroom lawyers they've got will be loving this, A-la Holgate etc, when it felt every person on RAWK had passed the bar exam that very evening, quoting precedents and obscure by-laws reasoning whatever they decided was real. If it was a film it'd be "12 (million) Angry Men"...

I'm just awaiting the plassie barristers citing obscure bird law to get the crock outta this heinous crime, well they have got that scranwy pigeon over there.
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Did you hear the two excuses this morning on transport 1.A sports news reader said that what Daniel had in his favour was that he is a Christian and therefore not allowed to bet.2 Alan Brazil said it was the bookies fault for offering odds of 25/1 that he would go to West brom who would not have a go at those odds.
Yaya Toure is a Muslim and got done for drunk driving.
 
My bet is that he told some friends he was off to West Brom, who then lumped on it. Sure the report said it applied to last Jan. Hope he gets a nice long ban whatever it is.


Reds are saying its only natural for him to talk to his family, and of course to a certain extent it is, but only being able to say so much about work and avoid other topics, is hardly unique to a footballer, lots of professions have to be careful in what they say. Doctors for example can't name patients and tell his or her case history to anyone even to an extent his/her own family.

So while it's certainly natural to discuss its and perhaps natural too for them to discuss it with the wider circle of family and friends it may not be within the rules.

From the viewpoint of legality it must depend on what rules and regulations a player is actually bound by.

A spate of winning bets by family, friends and close associates at long odds of 25/1 for example, on him unexpectedly joining another club rather than those he had long been expected to join, and this surprise turn of events coinciding with betting on him doing so in a concentrated area, and is particularly prevalent amongst his wider circle of family and friends all having seemingly been told, and the only possible source of this information in all probability being the player himself, then it may constitute a serious breach of the rules by the player himself.

He will have a highly paid defence arguing his case and if he's not heavily restricted its difficult to see how the charges were brought, but I'm not exactly sure whether the players' family also have to have these restrictions too or whether that's even particularly relevant as its the availability of that information and how it got out which seems to be the issue. Whether tge player by telling anyone and they subsequently using it for betting is a breach, if its not the hen its difficult to see how charges are being laid.

Often in competitions or similar there can be restrictions if you know someone working for the organisers or are in the same family of someone who is.

It might well mean the player himself has to abide by restrictions that do limit the amount of information he can tell his family before it becomes public knowledge that its a possibility for fear of them placing bets.

There is normally time once negotiations start and are known about to discuss it before committing anyway.Yes its certainly natural to do so and perhaps also quite natural for them in turn to discuss it with the wider circle of family and friends.

From the viewpoint of legality it must depend on what rules and regulations a player is actually bound by.

A spate of winning bets by family, friends and close associates at long odds of say 25/1 for example, on him unexpectedly, at the last minute so to speak, joining another club rather than those he had long been expected to join, and this surprise turn of events coinciding with betting on him doing so in a concentrated area, and it being particularly prevelent amongst his wider circle of family and friends all having seemingly been told, and the only possible source of this information in all probability being the player himself, then it may constitute a serious breach of the rules by the player himself.

He will have a highly paid defence arguing his case but if he's not heavily restricted its difficult to see how the charges were brought, but I'm not exactly sure whether the players' family also have to have these restrictions too or whether that's even particularly relevant that they do.

It's the availability of that information and how it got out which seems to be the issue and whether the player by telling anyone and they subsequently using it for betting is a breach, if it's not then its difficult to see how charges are being laid.

Often in competitions or similar there can be restrictions if you know someone working for the organisers or are in the same family of someone who is.

It might well mean the player himself has to abide by restrictions that do limit the amount of information he can divulge to his family before it becomes public knowledge for fear of them or their close friends and associates placing bets.

There is normally time enough once negotiations are known to have started and before them being finalised to discuss it before committing anyway.

A players agent is usually the main source of advice and representation rather than his family, especially for a player who has been around some time

With FA charges it must also be remembered that it's not a court of law, and its only on the balance of probabilities not proof.
 
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Yes he would although tbf reading about that it seemed a far longer and more extensive fraud involving a number of players was involved and a very harsh and punitive sentence deemed necessary , I should of course have typed Jan 2018 not 2016 for Sturridge.

Even if only about the loan move to WBA, it still could be serious enough as it's by no means that straight forward as there are apparently extremely suspicious betting patterns involved too.

It's by no means that straight forward though as there are apparently extremely suspicious betting patterns involved too.

The move to WBA had looked extremely unlikely only a few days previously and odds of 25/1 were freely available, a move to the North East and Newcastle had seemed far more likely. The FA apparently have conducted a lengthy enquiry of several months into this and Liverpool have been aware of it for some time. Liverpool have treated it as a personal matter and nothing really to do with them, the player himself has had to hire expensive lawyers via the company that represents him. If members of his family or relatives are involved for example this is potentially serious as large amounts can be gained fraudulently with insider knowledge, its all about the proof and evidence the FA possess.

Passing on information gained from being in a privileged position to do so runs a very high risk of serious consequences if the evidence is extensive or undeniable, or his defence doesn't stand up

It may also be telling how Liverpool's holding statement hardly defends him just stating what the player has told them and that he's cooperating.
I think you are limited to the amount of money you can wager on these special bets, partially due to inside info.
 

I'm a longstanding fan of Van Dijk. However, he is a CB at the end of the day, and I always think he's liable to have a handful of costly off days at the back where he loses focus on set pieces or gets caught out of position. The truly great CBs love defending. It's all they feel the need to do. I get the feeling that Van Dijk gets caught between two stools sometimes



I know the full backs aren’t great lad but calling them stools is a bit drastic lol
 

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