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ECHO Comment: "Fears of Witch-hunt Against Liverpool FC" part 3

abcshard said:
You can't hold every Liverpool fan to every burden of ever wrongdoing though. Every fan base has a idiot component to it. You can't label an entire community and global fanbase by the same brush. That is like saying the world is evil. Yes there are bad and good parts to every fanbase.
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You are all gobshites every last one of you, I will change my opinion when the so called majority stop enabling the minority, or is it the other war around .
 
abcshard said:
I am out, don't want to keep talking the same points. Don't agree with the wrong actions of the wrongdoers, but no one can keep living as apologists for the actions of a few. But, that is all that Everton have now, the moral projected superiority. I congratulate you on it.
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Again, stop with the unnecessary personal attacks. I have not said I have moral superiority.

You made a point, I asked for some more information, and you have had a tantrum.

So without the tantrum and hissy fit (and you clearly projecting what you clearly feel, which is you and your supporters behaviour is very poor from a moral standpoint) can we have some sort of guidance as to what the club have actually done in terms of preventing those supporters who broke the rules around the pandemic from going to Anfield? Has a single person been banned yet? Or have the people who urinated on a mural to those who have died been banned yet?

Or are you more angry that someone might get upset, that a memorial to a loved one gets urinated on, and filmed for a few laughs?

Come on, don't be coward answer the questions. Nobody is being rude to you here, you are just being asked to account for your statements. Don't be a coward all your life and run off when you face a bit of scrutiny.
 
brigadier said:
You are all gobshites every last one of you, I will change my opinion when the so called majority stop enabling the minority, or is it the other war around .
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He's basically ran off crying, because he's been asked to substantiate his claim the club have taken it seriously. Rather than just saying he can't because they haven't, he runs off.

@abcshard and his ilk are worse than the lowlife cowards who broke covid cover in a pandemic and attacked the city by setting fire to it. Those idiots hate scousers, hate the city etc but are at least honest about it. People like him pretend to be decent, principled people, but when they are asked to make a single statement condemning them refuse to do so. They are rotten and dishonest.

How hard is it to say "the morons who attacked the city are scum and should be banned from going to football games"?
 
abcshard said:
It is fractions mate, it is a fraction of larger number. Now that fraction might be big enough for the entire Everton fan base, but it is still a small fraction of the total Liverpool global fanbase.
What do you want every Liverpool fan you ever meet to apologize for what happened due to few idiots 40 years ago.
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You only get the same away tickets as everyone else it must be the fans every week.
 
catcherintherye said:
He's basically ran off crying, because he's been asked to substantiate his claim the club have taken it seriously. Rather than just saying he can't because they haven't, he runs off.

@abcshard and his ilk are worse than the lowlife cowards who broke covid cover in a pandemic and attacked the city by setting fire to it. Those idiots hate scousers, hate the city etc but are at least honest about it. People like him pretend to be decent, principled people, but when they are asked to make a single statement condemning them refuse to do so. They are rotten and dishonest.

How hard is it to say "the morons who attacked the city are scum and should be banned from going to football games"?
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What I never understand is why would you support a club when you despise the place they are from and the people who live there...
 

abcshard said:
It is fractions mate, it is a fraction of larger number. Now that fraction might be big enough for the entire Everton fan base, but it is still a small fraction of the total Liverpool global fanbase.
What do you want every Liverpool fan you ever meet to apologize for what happened due to few idiots 40 years ago.
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Essentially you're proudly arguing that you have more tools than us. I'd also beg to differ it isn't fractions. Do you mean fractious? That would make more sense. You of indeed attract a significant wider support, whom a significant portion of happen to be tools. But you definitely attract a significant number of fractious tools as a club. What is it about your club that attracts fractious tools?
 
catcherintherye said:
This is your problem really. It's not "bitter" to be angry at people not following safety instructions in a pandemic? Or at people setting fire to the cities buildings? Only someone like you would look at thise things, and choose to accuse someone highlighting why they are wrong as deserving of an insult, and not those partaking in them.

When people behave like tits they deserve to be called out. And it doesn't need a no good apologist like you, backhandedly supporting them by attacking those who do.
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Perfectly put.
 
abcshard said:
You can't hold every Liverpool fan to every burden of ever wrongdoing though. Every fan base has a idiot component to it. You can't label an entire community and global fanbase by the same brush. That is like saying the world is evil. Yes there are bad and good parts to every fanbase.
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I speak as a lifelong Man City fan who was brought up in the 70's and make no mistake about it Liverpool fans are the most reviled and despised fan base by some considerable distance. Both in England and abroad. You are absolutely hated and it is nothing to do with success (1 x COVID Premier League trophy in 30 years is not exactly the definition of 'success is it now?). You bring trouble wherever you go. At every ground you play at. At every town or City you turn up in. A more nasty, spiteful, self entitled bunch there isn't. You get away with it due to the fact that the club have weaponised Hillsborough and the press & media are scared to death to say anything negative about you due to that disaster and you constantly get a free pass. Wake up and smell the Java fella.
You lot are universally hated and what's more, you actually know you are.
 

PaulPowersTash said:
I speak as a lifelong Man City fan who was brought up in the 70's and make no mistake about it Liverpool fans are the most reviled and despised fan base by some considerable distance. Both in England and abroad. You are absolutely hated and it is nothing to do with success (1 x COVID Premier League trophy in 30 years is not exactly the definition of 'success is it now?). You bring trouble wherever you go. At every ground you play at. At every town or City you turn up in. A more nasty, spiteful, self entitled bunch there isn't. You get away with it due to the fact that the club have weaponised Hillsborough and the press & media are scared to death to say anything negative about you due to that disaster and you constantly get a free pass. Wake up and smell the Java fella.
You lot are universally hated and what's more, you actually know you are.
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Nail on the head, Paul.
 
Disgruntledgoat said:
A mate I lived with at Uni was a Sheffield United fan and got beaten up and robbed by two lads in LFC shirts on his way home from the League Cup semi the RS beat them in on away goals. Imagine that, celebrating squeaking past a championship side by mugging one of their supporters as he walks home.
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I used to watch the blues away used to go on the special, I was more fearful of our own supporters than the opponents supporters, beaten up spit at ridiculed every away game getting called a woolyback. I dont like Liverpool the behaviour of a large number when they won the league was a disgrace but its not accurate to say its just them. I do agree the club itself should have called it out though.A knobhead is a knobhead regardless who they support.
 

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