Got into an argument with some RS divvy who said Klopp was comparable with Paisley and Shankly. RS have a habit of rewriting history, it took them until years after Benitez left to accept he won 2 penalty shootouts, his 2 trophies were simply flukes. Klopp lost 2 finals in his first season against an average City and a home game essentially v Sevilla. Lost 3rd final in Kiev, then Liverpool lost 3 group games, Napoli screwed it up in Belgrade, so Liverpool go through. I'm still convinced Barca game was fixed, as Barcas left back had zero pressure nobody around him, yet gave it to Henderson. Barcas players didn't seem bothered and of course Spurs just hand Klopp a trophy. Liverpool messed up league that season and only won asterix title because of VAR. His success is not comparable to Paisleys when it was an honest game played by honest people, when even when we were useless and United were, we still gave them a game. He's benefited from the simple fact, a lot of teams, Wolves, Palace, Bournemouth, Villa, West Ham, Spurs, Arsenal, Brentford, Fulham certain other teams were quite happy to just let them win ,rather than giving them a game. He's benefited from United, Spurs, Chelsea, Us, Arsenal until recently being appallingly run, so he nobody to challenge him. Recently managers have noticed what everyone on here has noticed for years, if you don't give them space in behind, they aren't that dangerous, they are a Sunday League side doped up. You can see it in how not 1 of Klopps RS players has had any success after leaving Liverpool. I think that Klopp understood drugs no longer work, Salah looks crocked I think VVD will probably retire in summer, but I suppose Wolves will just lie down and give him a going away win, to please Sky Sports.