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ECHO Comment: "Fears of Witch-hunt Against Liverpool FC"

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Stevie G Laaa said:
"It’s been very hard. I’ve experienced it a few times during my career at Liverpool when it gets tough under certain managers and, from the outside, people are trying to kill you. It’s normal. We’re at a big club, we’ve got to take that responsibility.
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The witch-hunt is back on!
 
catcherintherye said:
They just strike me as the attention seeking kid in school, or the one in the friendship group that is affected.

What's interesting is the collective DNA forces them to behave in such a way. Jesus we've all had disappointment as fans, losing the semi final to them was just pitiful. Indeed we can all have a bit of a laugh, or moan or cry about it now. Where it differs is that they think it is a world changing event that they need to share with everyone else. Anybody who doesn't share this vision is then hounded out.

I said it's a cult, but it has more in common with a Ghetto. The inward looking theatrical nature of them allows for such comical mistakes as the continued Suarez debacle. It's not just they are complete idiots, but that they exist in this paranoid parallel universe where the world exists to undermine them.
It's a comical mixture of grandular fever and paranoia that exists normally in individuals who are sectioned for being neurotic, but has become normalised behaviour for them. That is the only way you can explain away the idea that Alex Fergusan was taken time out of his schedule to plot a way to get a mid table teams striker banned for 8 games. Only those who are both delusional in their view of themselves and completely paranoid about the world could hold such an illogical position. But that's the concrete basis of Liverpool fans, delusion and paranoia.

I would say Rodgers has been smart enough to tap into that. I don't think he is though, he's just struck lucky. He's struck lucky with a bunch of whoppers who require inane nonsense over tangible data. The way they "defend" their managers is not the measure of a great fan, or a loyal one, it is representative of a mentally ill individual who splits their own feelings and emotions onto another person or object.

They hated Hodgson not just for poor results, but because "he didn't get what Liverpool football club was about". This was put down to him not knowing how to manage a big club (another delusional statement when one considers his track record). The truth is, he didn't play along with their delusion, he didn't pander to their ego's enough.

Lots of people on here defended Moyes, or Kenwright or Martinez. But not out of some mad desire that they were the chosen one, but because in our situation they are the best we could get. We don't invoke the memory of managers from 50 years ago in doing so.

What's always the amusing moment in all of this is the inevitable fall out. Redmen TV were going on about how they hated the fans were "split" on Rodgers (ie people disagree). The fact disagreement is so feared shows again the attitude of a Cult. Evidence is slowly showing Rodgers up. Like the crack addict their fans demand their fix of drama and excitement. It's not about winning the league, it's about all the attention they get. They aren't getting any now and they have no obvious target to blame. It's going to be a fun few months watching more of them find Rodgers out while others try to find some conspiracy to blame.
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Super post.
 
catcherintherye said:
They just strike me as the attention seeking kid in school, or the one in the friendship group that is affected.

What's interesting is the collective DNA forces them to behave in such a way. Jesus we've all had disappointment as fans, losing the semi final to them was just pitiful. Indeed we can all have a bit of a laugh, or moan or cry about it now. Where it differs is that they think it is a world changing event that they need to share with everyone else. Anybody who doesn't share this vision is then hounded out.

I said it's a cult, but it has more in common with a Ghetto. The inward looking theatrical nature of them allows for such comical mistakes as the continued Suarez debacle. It's not just they are complete idiots, but that they exist in this paranoid parallel universe where the world exists to undermine them.
It's a comical mixture of grandular fever and paranoia that exists normally in individuals who are sectioned for being neurotic, but has become normalised behaviour for them. That is the only way you can explain away the idea that Alex Fergusan was taken time out of his schedule to plot a way to get a mid table teams striker banned for 8 games. Only those who are both delusional in their view of themselves and completely paranoid about the world could hold such an illogical position. But that's the concrete basis of Liverpool fans, delusion and paranoia.

I would say Rodgers has been smart enough to tap into that. I don't think he is though, he's just struck lucky. He's struck lucky with a bunch of whoppers who require inane nonsense over tangible data. The way they "defend" their managers is not the measure of a great fan, or a loyal one, it is representative of a mentally ill individual who splits their own feelings and emotions onto another person or object.

They hated Hodgson not just for poor results, but because "he didn't get what Liverpool football club was about". This was put down to him not knowing how to manage a big club (another delusional statement when one considers his track record). The truth is, he didn't play along with their delusion, he didn't pander to their ego's enough.

Lots of people on here defended Moyes, or Kenwright or Martinez. But not out of some mad desire that they were the chosen one, but because in our situation they are the best we could get. We don't invoke the memory of managers from 50 years ago in doing so.

What's always the amusing moment in all of this is the inevitable fall out. Redmen TV were going on about how they hated the fans were "split" on Rodgers (ie people disagree). The fact disagreement is so feared shows again the attitude of a Cult. Evidence is slowly showing Rodgers up. Like the crack addict their fans demand their fix of drama and excitement. It's not about winning the league, it's about all the attention they get. They aren't getting any now and they have no obvious target to blame. It's going to be a fun few months watching more of them find Rodgers out while others try to find some conspiracy to blame.
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Quite simply (and with no broader religious significance), the difference between us and them is that we, generally speaking, are iconoclasts; they, generally speaking, are idolaters. There's no adulation or free passes handed out to even our very best; they, on the other hand (and Gnashers is a perfect example), will dollop adulation on anyone who becomes an echo chamber for their own collective self regard, no matter their lack of achievement. He repeats back to them what he hears and sees from them: 'unique', 'family', 'European royalty', 'global force'. He knows all the dog whistles. It's not especially clever manipulation, but Hodgson is an interesting counterpoint in showing how you dont act as Liverpool manager. He wouldn't or couldn't play that game and had to go. There's no room at that club for honesty. What they want and get is a stream of chancers patting them on the head and telling them fairy stories.
 

Big difference to this time last week when they had the press round to take photos at melwood capturing their fantastic team spirit on film.

It's like he's just had a bollocking of the Landlord before he went in.
 

BirkenheadBlue said:
That is outstanding.

Can only find the name of 7 of them though:

Make Us Dream
Make Us Dream (yes there's even two with the same title)
Daring to Dream
They Dared to Dream
We Go Again
Poetry in Motion
A Surprising Season

Anyone know the other one. More fun for kopite-mate baiting if i've got them all
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All I know is getting all of them would mean buying a shedload of crayons....
 

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