ECHO Comment: "Fears of Witch-hunt Against Liverpool FC"

[Dithering Dougie]

Just read this on RAWK. I hate them


Lets be honest, if everything was fair in football Liverpool would have won the league last season and Steven Gerrard would have lifted the trophy as captain and retired on the high that he so rightly deserves. As it turns out, a Steven Gerrard slip let Chelsea win a game from the comfort of their own half, and one of the best ever England midfielders of many a generation was left to have nightmares forever.

My son was born 7 years ago. As an expectant father, I remember trying to be patient and understanding as my wife kept dreaming up names that I would clearly never agree to. It's interesting actually how parents-to-be listen to a name suggestion and then scan their memories of people they know who shared that name before deciding if they like it or not … I guess that’s why you don’t meet any kids called Adolf these days? Anyway, on the plus side of that rule my wife had taken quite a shine to Jamie Redknapp by this time, so the name association game allowed me to get Jamie (Carragher) on the birth certificate. My other choices were Sami (as in Hyypia) and Stevie (as in Gerrard).

Despite being named after a different Liverpool legend, today my Jamie loves football like his dad, and LOVES Steven Gerrard. Such an inspirational player, that fans young and old can identify with instantly.

Its not just the fans that appreciate the efforts of Liverpool’s mercurial number 8 however. Pele, Brazil’s most lauded player, once said of Gerrard that the only reason he wasn’t considered the world’s best was because "The fans, they look only for forwards, always a forward," Pele went on to say that "For me, for the last five years Gerrard has been the best player in the world. Pele also said that “Gerrard is an excellent player, absolutely world-class. If I was a manager, everywhere I went I would buy Steve Gerrard.”

Zidane said of the Liverpool captain ""Is he the best in the world? He might not get the attention of [Lionel] Messi and Ronaldo but, yes, I think he just might be," Zidane said. "If you don't have a player like Steven Gerrard, who is the engine room, it can affect the whole team."

Stevie G, while still playing, has received platitudes from some of the best players to ever grace the beautiful game. I think collectively in this country we seem to think less of him because his English, and I think at club level, jealously makes him the target of derision. Listen to Man Utd and Chelsea fans. Stevie Gerrard and Liverpool could be playing 200 miles away from their games, yet these fans still find themselves singing about Steven Gerrard. He is always on their minds, and if they were brutally honest, they are gutted that he didn’t sign for them years ago.

Paul Scholes was a great midfielder, as was Frank Lampard, but they were good from the middle forwards and if you want to pick a midfielder who could be awesome going forward then maybe Paul Gascoigne was the best in my lifetime. Bryan Robson is probably the closest England have ever come to Steven Gerrard, but the different era makes comparison impossible.

Alex Ferguson famously said on his autobiography, written to sell copes, that Gerrard wasn’t "a top, top player." Yet when there was a sniff of him leaving Liverpool in 2005 his tune was slightly different when he said "He has become the most influential player in England, bar none. Not that Vieira lacks anything, but Gerrard does more."

“You beauty” screamed Evertonian Andy Gray on Sly Sports as Stevie Gerrard smashed an unstoppable drive into the Olympiakos net, with time running out for Liverpool’s Champions League dreams. “What a hit son!” And as time was nearly up at Wembley stadium, and West Ham sniffed an unexpected FA Cup win, it was Stevie Gerrard who drove forward an unleashed hell from his right boot. A flick header in Istanbul, with Liverpool trailing 3-0 to AC Milan was followed by furious upward swings of his arms in order pull the entire red contingent in the Ataturk and beyond to attention. The rest of that Istanbul story is the stuff of film, stage and folklore.

A modern day Roy of the Rovers, Steven Gerrard is a top, top player that we are lucky enough to have enjoyed for so long. Time waits for no man however, and sadly it is time to say farewell and wish the Huyton born maestro our very best for the future, and to offer him out heartfelt thanks for the blood, sweat and tears he put into delivery our memories that will last forever.

Gerard Houllier gave Stevie his debut, and as he once said while manager of Liverpool “What we achieve in our lifetime echoes through all eternity” An atomic bomb wouldn’t echo for any longer Stevie lad.

YNWA.

It worries me greatly that these whoppers are breeding.

 

[chicoazul]

They just noticed the first letter answers thing and took the moral ground with added outrage. Now they happy. And feeling a bit silly.

That's my answers deleted. Pah.

 

[composter]

Alex Ferguson famously said on his autobiography, written to sell copes, that Gerrard wasn’t "a top, top player." Yet when there was a sniff of him leaving Liverpool in 2005 his tune was slightly different when he said "He has become the most influential player in England, bar none. Not that Vieira lacks anything, but Gerrard does more."

YNWA.

Kopite mistakes Wenger wind-up for actual Gerard praise, brilliant

 

[Deleted member 24970]

Just read this on RAWK. I hate them


Lets be honest, if everything was fair in football Liverpool would have won the league last season and Steven Gerrard would have lifted the trophy as captain and retired on the high that he so rightly deserves. As it turns out, a Steven Gerrard slip let Chelsea win a game from the comfort of their own half, and one of the best ever England midfielders of many a generation was left to have nightmares forever.

My son was born 7 years ago. As an expectant father, I remember trying to be patient and understanding as my wife kept dreaming up names that I would clearly never agree to. It's interesting actually how parents-to-be listen to a name suggestion and then scan their memories of people they know who shared that name before deciding if they like it or not … I guess that’s why you don’t meet any kids called Adolf these days? Anyway, on the plus side of that rule my wife had taken quite a shine to Jamie Redknapp by this time, so the name association game allowed me to get Jamie (Carragher) on the birth certificate. My other choices were Sami (as in Hyypia) and Stevie (as in Gerrard).

Despite being named after a different Liverpool legend, today my Jamie loves football like his dad, and LOVES Steven Gerrard. Such an inspirational player, that fans young and old can identify with instantly.

Its not just the fans that appreciate the efforts of Liverpool’s mercurial number 8 however. Pele, Brazil’s most lauded player, once said of Gerrard that the only reason he wasn’t considered the world’s best was because "The fans, they look only for forwards, always a forward," Pele went on to say that "For me, for the last five years Gerrard has been the best player in the world. Pele also said that “Gerrard is an excellent player, absolutely world-class. If I was a manager, everywhere I went I would buy Steve Gerrard.”

Zidane said of the Liverpool captain ""Is he the best in the world? He might not get the attention of [Lionel] Messi and Ronaldo but, yes, I think he just might be," Zidane said. "If you don't have a player like Steven Gerrard, who is the engine room, it can affect the whole team."

Stevie G, while still playing, has received platitudes from some of the best players to ever grace the beautiful game. I think collectively in this country we seem to think less of him because his English, and I think at club level, jealously makes him the target of derision. Listen to Man Utd and Chelsea fans. Stevie Gerrard and Liverpool could be playing 200 miles away from their games, yet these fans still find themselves singing about Steven Gerrard. He is always on their minds, and if they were brutally honest, they are gutted that he didn’t sign for them years ago.

Paul Scholes was a great midfielder, as was Frank Lampard, but they were good from the middle forwards and if you want to pick a midfielder who could be awesome going forward then maybe Paul Gascoigne was the best in my lifetime. Bryan Robson is probably the closest England have ever come to Steven Gerrard, but the different era makes comparison impossible.

Alex Ferguson famously said on his autobiography, written to sell copes, that Gerrard wasn’t "a top, top player." Yet when there was a sniff of him leaving Liverpool in 2005 his tune was slightly different when he said "He has become the most influential player in England, bar none. Not that Vieira lacks anything, but Gerrard does more."

“You beauty” screamed Evertonian Andy Gray on Sly Sports as Stevie Gerrard smashed an unstoppable drive into the Olympiakos net, with time running out for Liverpool’s Champions League dreams. “What a hit son!” And as time was nearly up at Wembley stadium, and West Ham sniffed an unexpected FA Cup win, it was Stevie Gerrard who drove forward an unleashed hell from his right boot. A flick header in Istanbul, with Liverpool trailing 3-0 to AC Milan was followed by furious upward swings of his arms in order pull the entire red contingent in the Ataturk and beyond to attention. The rest of that Istanbul story is the stuff of film, stage and folklore.

A modern day Roy of the Rovers, Steven Gerrard is a top, top player that we are lucky enough to have enjoyed for so long. Time waits for no man however, and sadly it is time to say farewell and wish the Huyton born maestro our very best for the future, and to offer him out heartfelt thanks for the blood, sweat and tears he put into delivery our memories that will last forever.

Gerard Houllier gave Stevie his debut, and as he once said while manager of Liverpool “What we achieve in our lifetime echoes through all eternity” An atomic bomb wouldn’t echo for any longer Stevie lad.

YNWA.

To be fair - ban me if you wish, i cant find many faults with that. He was the best premier league midfielder but not the best in the world, that was Zidane who is humble enough to never blow his own trumpet (cue the shock and horror for his headbutt at matterazzi). Everybody who watched football knew Zizou was the best. His golden boots would be considered wool behaviour in the scouse section, but he made them look golden with the football he played. Gerrard is only god in the eyes of those who cant see past their own ego's or Steven Gerrards.

 

[Deleted member 24970]

Just read this on RAWK. I hate them


Lets be honest, if everything was fair in football Liverpool would have won the league last season and Steven Gerrard would have lifted the trophy as captain and retired on the high that he so rightly deserves. As it turns out, a Steven Gerrard slip let Chelsea win a game from the comfort of their own half, and one of the best ever England midfielders of many a generation was left to have nightmares forever.

My son was born 7 years ago. As an expectant father, I remember trying to be patient and understanding as my wife kept dreaming up names that I would clearly never agree to. It's interesting actually how parents-to-be listen to a name suggestion and then scan their memories of people they know who shared that name before deciding if they like it or not … I guess that’s why you don’t meet any kids called Adolf these days? Anyway, on the plus side of that rule my wife had taken quite a shine to Jamie Redknapp by this time, so the name association game allowed me to get Jamie (Carragher) on the birth certificate. My other choices were Sami (as in Hyypia) and Stevie (as in Gerrard).

Despite being named after a different Liverpool legend, today my Jamie loves football like his dad, and LOVES Steven Gerrard. Such an inspirational player, that fans young and old can identify with instantly.

Its not just the fans that appreciate the efforts of Liverpool’s mercurial number 8 however. Pele, Brazil’s most lauded player, once said of Gerrard that the only reason he wasn’t considered the world’s best was because "The fans, they look only for forwards, always a forward," Pele went on to say that "For me, for the last five years Gerrard has been the best player in the world. Pele also said that “Gerrard is an excellent player, absolutely world-class. If I was a manager, everywhere I went I would buy Steve Gerrard.”

Zidane said of the Liverpool captain ""Is he the best in the world? He might not get the attention of [Lionel] Messi and Ronaldo but, yes, I think he just might be," Zidane said. "If you don't have a player like Steven Gerrard, who is the engine room, it can affect the whole team."

Stevie G, while still playing, has received platitudes from some of the best players to ever grace the beautiful game. I think collectively in this country we seem to think less of him because his English, and I think at club level, jealously makes him the target of derision. Listen to Man Utd and Chelsea fans. Stevie Gerrard and Liverpool could be playing 200 miles away from their games, yet these fans still find themselves singing about Steven Gerrard. He is always on their minds, and if they were brutally honest, they are gutted that he didn’t sign for them years ago.

Paul Scholes was a great midfielder, as was Frank Lampard, but they were good from the middle forwards and if you want to pick a midfielder who could be awesome going forward then maybe Paul Gascoigne was the best in my lifetime. Bryan Robson is probably the closest England have ever come to Steven Gerrard, but the different era makes comparison impossible.

Alex Ferguson famously said on his autobiography, written to sell copes, that Gerrard wasn’t "a top, top player." Yet when there was a sniff of him leaving Liverpool in 2005 his tune was slightly different when he said "He has become the most influential player in England, bar none. Not that Vieira lacks anything, but Gerrard does more."

“You beauty” screamed Evertonian Andy Gray on Sly Sports as Stevie Gerrard smashed an unstoppable drive into the Olympiakos net, with time running out for Liverpool’s Champions League dreams. “What a hit son!” And as time was nearly up at Wembley stadium, and West Ham sniffed an unexpected FA Cup win, it was Stevie Gerrard who drove forward an unleashed hell from his right boot. A flick header in Istanbul, with Liverpool trailing 3-0 to AC Milan was followed by furious upward swings of his arms in order pull the entire red contingent in the Ataturk and beyond to attention. The rest of that Istanbul story is the stuff of film, stage and folklore.

A modern day Roy of the Rovers, Steven Gerrard is a top, top player that we are lucky enough to have enjoyed for so long. Time waits for no man however, and sadly it is time to say farewell and wish the Huyton born maestro our very best for the future, and to offer him out heartfelt thanks for the blood, sweat and tears he put into delivery our memories that will last forever.

Gerard Houllier gave Stevie his debut, and as he once said while manager of Liverpool “What we achieve in our lifetime echoes through all eternity” An atomic bomb wouldn’t echo for any longer Stevie lad.

YNWA.

Ohh and sorry for being bitter but if everything was fair in the world, everton would not have been thrown out of europe with the other english teams because of Heysel. I never like to use tragedies like that to fight a argument but every man, women, child and anybody with any sense knew that possibly our greatest ever team was torn apart by them scumbags. Normally in a rage i would say, id love to do the same to them but id like to think that for all our ups and downs we would never go that far. Chico summed it up nicely (something we already knew) that we are blessed to simply not be them Istanbul i would love to experience with everton but not at the cost of being a Kopite, my mum brought me up to be a decent human being.

 

[Deleted member 24970]

Sorry guys me head hurts im going to lie down.....

 

[49ers]

YAWNlollollol

Never held back so much vom while reading.

Amazing,in an ocean of bellends,this one stands out....saddo

 

[Foot Long Hot Dog]

Love the way the plastic southern based whoppers on that RAWK thread are bleating on about us being 'bitter' when the mere mention of the word United, gets the bile spilling from their sanctamonious mouths.

They're a parody of themselves on that site, each trying to out whopper their fellow plastic kopites.

Oh and btw - titi got a ban for being a belter who'd posed as a Blue with another account.

 

[paulbefc]

Love the way the plastic southern based whoppers on that RAWK thread are bleating on about us being 'bitter' when the mere mention of the word United, gets the bile spilling from their sanctamonious mouths.

They're a parody of themselves on that site, each trying to out whopper their fellow plastic kopites.

Oh and btw - titi got a ban for being a belter who'd posed as a Blue with another account.

What was his fake blue username?

 

[Jacob]

YAWNlollollol

Exactly. RAWK is like mushroom compost for these self obsessed idiots....wannabe semi-literate creative writing students popping up here there and everywhere with their bullsh** over whatever their latest melodrama is...this time Gerrard's last derby. Selective memory is their default. However that Houllier quote, resurrected/made up or whatever makes Dubya Bush sound like JFK....a great laugh. You can see who the banner scribes are...pure Joe Maplin.

 

[Foot Long Hot Dog]

https://www.grandoldteam.com/forum/...n-vs-liverpool-7th-february-2015-17-30.72916/

 

[paulbefc]

https://www.grandoldteam.com/forum/...n-vs-liverpool-7th-february-2015-17-30.72916/

Haha, I see.

Oh dear.

 

[joey_macmo]

Just read this on RAWK. I hate them



“You beauty” screamed Evertonian Andy Gray on Sly Sports as Stevie Gerrard smashed an unstoppable drive into the Olympiakos net, with time running out for Liverpool’s Champions League dreams. “What a hit son!” And as time was nearly up at Wembley stadium, and West Ham sniffed an unexpected FA Cup win, it was Stevie Gerrard who drove forward an unleashed hell from his right boot. A flick header in Istanbul, with Liverpool trailing 3-0 to AC Milan was followed by furious upward swings of his arms in order pull the entire red contingent in the Ataturk and beyond to attention. The rest of that Istanbul story is the stuff of film, stage and folklore.



YNWA.

How can someone love the player that much yet get the location so badly badly wrong.

Saying that Cardiff & London probably look close when you're sat in Indonesia looking on a world map

 

[mawders]

Just read this on RAWK. I hate them


Lets be honest, if everything was fair in football Liverpool would have won the league last season and Steven Gerrard would have lifted the trophy as captain and retired on the high that he so rightly deserves. As it turns out, a Steven Gerrard slip let Chelsea win a game from the comfort of their own half, and one of the best ever England midfielders of many a generation was left to have nightmares forever.

My son was born 7 years ago. As an expectant father, I remember trying to be patient and understanding as my wife kept dreaming up names that I would clearly never agree to. It's interesting actually how parents-to-be listen to a name suggestion and then scan their memories of people they know who shared that name before deciding if they like it or not … I guess that’s why you don’t meet any kids called Adolf these days? Anyway, on the plus side of that rule my wife had taken quite a shine to Jamie Redknapp by this time, so the name association game allowed me to get Jamie (Carragher) on the birth certificate. My other choices were Sami (as in Hyypia) and Stevie (as in Gerrard).

Despite being named after a different Liverpool legend, today my Jamie loves football like his dad, and LOVES Steven Gerrard. Such an inspirational player, that fans young and old can identify with instantly.

Its not just the fans that appreciate the efforts of Liverpool’s mercurial number 8 however. Pele, Brazil’s most lauded player, once said of Gerrard that the only reason he wasn’t considered the world’s best was because "The fans, they look only for forwards, always a forward," Pele went on to say that "For me, for the last five years Gerrard has been the best player in the world. Pele also said that “Gerrard is an excellent player, absolutely world-class. If I was a manager, everywhere I went I would buy Steve Gerrard.”

Zidane said of the Liverpool captain ""Is he the best in the world? He might not get the attention of [Lionel] Messi and Ronaldo but, yes, I think he just might be," Zidane said. "If you don't have a player like Steven Gerrard, who is the engine room, it can affect the whole team."

Stevie G, while still playing, has received platitudes from some of the best players to ever grace the beautiful game. I think collectively in this country we seem to think less of him because his English, and I think at club level, jealously makes him the target of derision. Listen to Man Utd and Chelsea fans. Stevie Gerrard and Liverpool could be playing 200 miles away from their games, yet these fans still find themselves singing about Steven Gerrard. He is always on their minds, and if they were brutally honest, they are gutted that he didn’t sign for them years ago.

Paul Scholes was a great midfielder, as was Frank Lampard, but they were good from the middle forwards and if you want to pick a midfielder who could be awesome going forward then maybe Paul Gascoigne was the best in my lifetime. Bryan Robson is probably the closest England have ever come to Steven Gerrard, but the different era makes comparison impossible.

Alex Ferguson famously said on his autobiography, written to sell copes, that Gerrard wasn’t "a top, top player." Yet when there was a sniff of him leaving Liverpool in 2005 his tune was slightly different when he said "He has become the most influential player in England, bar none. Not that Vieira lacks anything, but Gerrard does more."

“You beauty” screamed Evertonian Andy Gray on Sly Sports as Stevie Gerrard smashed an unstoppable drive into the Olympiakos net, with time running out for Liverpool’s Champions League dreams. “What a hit son!” And as time was nearly up at Wembley stadium, and West Ham sniffed an unexpected FA Cup win, it was Stevie Gerrard who drove forward an unleashed hell from his right boot. A flick header in Istanbul, with Liverpool trailing 3-0 to AC Milan was followed by furious upward swings of his arms in order pull the entire red contingent in the Ataturk and beyond to attention. The rest of that Istanbul story is the stuff of film, stage and folklore.

A modern day Roy of the Rovers, Steven Gerrard is a top, top player that we are lucky enough to have enjoyed for so long. Time waits for no man however, and sadly it is time to say farewell and wish the Huyton born maestro our very best for the future, and to offer him out heartfelt thanks for the blood, sweat and tears he put into delivery our memories that will last forever.

Gerard Houllier gave Stevie his debut, and as he once said while manager of Liverpool “What we achieve in our lifetime echoes through all eternity” An atomic bomb wouldn’t echo for any longer Stevie lad.

YNWA.

How romantic. Probably first penned using a quil and parchmant and thinking how Shakespeare would be a red. Then, after a quick gizz over his 5-times bed quilt, he types it up with tears running down his face. Then after saluting each picture of the 5-times squad carefully arranged on his wall, he has another quick gizz thinking about stevie g lifting the PL before getting into his full kit and heading into town.

 

[canuckblue]

How romantic. Probably first penned using a quil and parchmant and thinking how Shakespeare would be a red. Then, after a quick gizz over his 5-times bed quilt, he types it up with tears running down his face. Then after saluting each picture of the 5-times squad carefully arranged on his wall, he has another quick gizz thinking about stevie g lifting the PL before getting into his full kit and heading into town.

This is also known as the Kopite Workout.