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ECHO Comment: "Fears of Witch-hunt Against Liverpool FC"

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davek said:
He's right under the cosh now. It just gets worse and worse for Rodgers from this point on. There's no future for him at Anfield. He's complaining about not having the resources to do better than where they are right now (the owners who gave him £250M will be chuffed); the players being 'nearly men' who dont rise to the occasion (that'll help matters with a squad he's already fallen out with); having Liverpool pretty much where they should be (despite having been 2nd last season); casting the previous Dalglish managed period in a negative light (one that at least won a trophy).

I reckon all that bluster is him writing his application form for another job rather than a serious attempt to draw a line under a massively damaging season.

I would not be surprised at all if he's not at Liverpool next season.
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I remember how they sacked Dalglish. There were a lot of similar debates and feeling amongst Liverpool fans and also the wider public. It was expected he'd be given 1 more season with the players he'd signed. The same was true of Dalglish.

My recollection was there wasn't much press talk of him being sacked, it really came out of the blue very quickly. It says to me the yanks will not really engage with Rodgers nonsense and will just move in and sack him very quickly if the turning point has come. They won't even worry about finding a successor first (they did this with neither Hodgson or Dalglish).

I have a sneaky feeling that they might do what United did to Moyes on him. The moment it becomes mathematically impossible for him to qualify for the champions league he will be sacked the following day. It gives a clear legitimacy as to why. They won't feel the need to offer him another job like they did with "Kenny".

I don't see much sentiment in these yanks. It will be very black and white. Objective for season was to qualify for Champions league, of which he has failed and he needs to be moved on. His performance sin Europe also show he's out of his depth. Welcome to another two years of transition for them.
 

Prevenger17 said:
Every time he opens his mouth, he looks more like a dead man walking. I don't want him to go. I'm actually getting slightly worried they would get Klopp.
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Cant see Klopp going there. He'll want to go to a top European club. I think there'll be plenty on offer in the summer...maybe even Bayern as there seems a lot of instability amongst the backroom staff and an insurrection of senior players, as far as I can make out anyway.
 
catcherintherye said:
I remember how they sacked Dalglish. There were a lot of similar debates and feeling amongst Liverpool fans and also the wider public. It was expected he'd be given 1 more season with the players he'd signed. The same was true of Dalglish.

My recollection was there wasn't much press talk of him being sacked, it really came out of the blue very quickly. It says to me the yanks will not really engage with Rodgers nonsense and will just move in and sack him very quickly if the turning point has come. They won't even worry about finding a successor first (they did this with neither Hodgson or Dalglish).

I have a sneaky feeling that they might do what United did to Moyes on him. The moment it becomes mathematically impossible for him to qualify for the champions league he will be sacked the following day. It gives a clear legitimacy as to why. They won't feel the need to offer him another job like they did with "Kenny".

I don't see much sentiment in these yanks. It will be very black and white. Objective for season was to qualify for Champions league, of which he has failed and he needs to be moved on. His performance sin Europe also show he's out of his depth. Welcome to another two years of transition for them.
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Fully agree with that. I did think that he'd stay on for season 4, but that was on the basis that he still carried the fans with him. I see movement there now and a lot more flak coming from that lot toward Rodgers. If they fail to respond in the last games of this season then that critical chatter might transform into a torrent. FSG will be on very safe ground a that point to dismiss him. Mind you, even if they do play well and win and dont qualify for the CL - as seems likely - then it could still happen. I dont think FSG are going to react too well to being told that they haven't given Rodgers 'the tools' to get a CL spot with, or that 5th/6th is 'par' for the course for Liverpool at this point.

I can see them taking a chance on a De Boer type figure.
 
catcherintherye said:
Well they scraped past Swansea at home, we lost to Swansea away (we'd have beaten Swansea had we been at home as well). They are not in the top 7/8 currently, or weren't when Liverpool played them. You are right about Palace though which slipped my mind. We beat would have beaten Palace away though (and did the previous week if memory serves me correctly).

If we'd have had their easy run, we'd have got to the cup final, no two ways about it. If they'd have had our run, they'd have bottled it like us and been knocked out in the 3rd round in both competitions (like they did in Europe).
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You mean like how we beat 10 man swansea at home in the league?
 

davek said:
Fully agree with that. I did think that he'd stay on for season 4, but that was on the basis that he still carried the fans with him. I see movement there now and a lot more flak coming from that lot toward Rodgers. If they fail to respond in the last games of this season then that critical chatter might transform into a torrent. FSG will be on very safe ground a that point to dismiss him. Mind you, even if they do play well and win and dont qualify for the CL - as seems likely - then it could still happen. I dont think FSG are going to react too well to being told that they haven't given Rodgers 'the tools' to get a CL spot with, or that 5th/6th is 'par' for the course for Liverpool at this point.

I can see them taking a chance on a De Boer type figure.
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Aye. With that lot if they win a few games until the end of the season he will have the fans back and it will be the usual hard luck story. Not having Sturridge bla bla.

There is an eerie silence from the yanks though, and Rodgers is beginning to sound a bit desperate and (even for his standards) delusional. He is beginning to sound like Dalglish used too when he started overplaying his mickey mouse cup win, almost trying to convince himself it was enough safe in the knowledge he was in serious trouble. It's what people do when they sense they are coming to the end.

I'll be honest I don't think the yanks will care too much about what the fans think. Liverpool fans greatly exaggerate their own importance. Particularly the loud mouth out of town knobheads. In simple numbers terms they are irrelevant. They could lose the season ticket money of every fan and it will probably barely cover the loss of expense caused by missing champions league football. That's without the potential hit on sponsorship deals. Not to mention the international support base greatly declining and their inability to grow in America as no-one knows who they are. In pure numerical terms, their ticket and pie money they cough up won't mean anything.

And yes De Boer would almost be the ideal replacement. Similar to Rodgers but a far better manager and a track record of improving young players and winning things. I'd be more concerned if they had him that's for sure.
 
Saint Domingo said:
http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/liverpool-fc-v-everton-fc-9105305

So after they got their chums at Sky to reinvent the league table. They've now got their pals at the echo to revise Derby history. Is there anything that club hasn't won. They must be hurting after Villa, that cut the hystericals and all their hanger ons deep.
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and starting as they mean to go on....

The very first fixture between these two historic rivals came in the Liverpool Senior Cup - appropriately in the final - on April 22 1893.
And just like in subsequent years it ended in controversy with a referee being blamed for robbing the Blues!
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