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« Reply #19040 on: Today at 03:51:01 PM »

Their giddiness and delusion over this investment is hilarious but understandable. They've essentially gone from shopping in Aldi to shopping in ASDA. Moshiri on his own isn't going to pump a great deal of money into the club. He's been described as a glorified accountant and that has a ring of truth to it but that's not necessarily a bad thing. Everton need someone like him with some nous with money to get them on their feet and to head in the right direction. It won't be easy - they are a small club with a small fanbase with limited commercial appeal and a stadium that is dilapidated and barely fit for purpose. They are the facts, that is not me speaking to belittle them or to claim our superiority. They were great in the 80's and once were a big club but times have changed and football has changed and they've regressed on and off the pitch.

They have delusions of grandeur about what this investment actually means. Moshiri is worth a touch over a billion. In this current climate that's pretty small fry though and they don't understand it. Any money that they spend this summer and beyond will probably not come from him. The TV money and any other commercial deals they get will fund their transfers, not Moshiri. There's always a possibility that he participates in some good PR work and directly funds a transfer early on or perhaps puts a couple of million extra in to fund one that won't get done otherwise. Yet the idea that a man worth just over £1bn is going to put tens of millions into buying new players is naive. He's a businessman, he's still worth a hell of a lot of money and he hasn't achieved that by throwing that money on things that don't have a high chance of working out.

He's investing at the right time, I'll give him that. In 5 years time providing they stay in the league and continue to float around mid-table or slightly better then he'll be able to sell for a nice profit. He won't have to do much as I said, he'll just balance the books, use the TV money to spend on players and get a couple of better sponsors. Everton fans don't realise that we aren't in the late 90's anymore. They will have to spend decent money to stay still. £20 million quid today is spent on a defensive midfielder... by Stoke. I don't know what they are expecting to happen. Their best signings this summer will be those who stay, not who comes in. Sure, they'll likely spend big for them but others teams will do the same and those other teams are already in a much better position than them (West Ham, Southampton, Stoke, Leicester, Spurs).

Usmanov is a pipe dream. He's just increased his stake in Arsenal. Why would he gamble on having to invest hundreds of millions in Everton due to a new stadium and players when he has a sure cash cow with Arsenal? Power, apparently. He wants glory. Well, maybe. But the idea that he's likely to get glory by investing in a club that's the second biggest in it's own small city rather than a club with a 60,000 seater stadium in the heart of one of the world's biggest cities is insane. If he was going to do it he would have done it. He has more money than he knows what to do with, there wouldn't need to be any staged investment or planning. He wouldn't need Moshiri to get the ball rolling. If Usmanov wanted Everton then Kenwright would have sold to him faster than you could say "Where's the Arteta money?"

So, on the whole, it's probably good news for them. However they won't really move forwards, they'll likely stay where they are. And they should be grateful of that because they've gone backwards for as long as I can remember.

Not too fussed about them regarding our investment, it's all about us, but they make it even better with their bitter jelous views. If they had any brain cells they just wouldn't post any views because it would give us less fuel to laugh at them with.

the bits in bold (pretty much the whole post to be honest) are what made me laugh the most, the irony is on another scale. "i won't belittle them" apart from the 6 or 7 times i will do so in the next 2 paragraphs.

Suarez, Sterling, Torres, Alonso, Macherano - their best players over the last few years that they've had to sell because they're not good enough to keep them. The only two they kept were the evertonian born scousers; one stayed because nobody else ever wanted to buy him and the other, who only ever had one club interested in him in his career, crapped his pants at a postal delivery. Does this fit the mantra of "best signings will be those who stay"? - nope, not even that good. At least they won't have to worry about teams taking stars off them for a while.

the mid table point was good ... from a guy who supports a club currently sitting 11th. Good job all of west ham, southampton, stoke, leicester, spurs and everton aren't "in a better position than them"...



....oh,awkward.
 
You're saying Klopp is no better than Brenda...wow.

Klopp has won titles and cups in germany and was close to winning a CL.

He hasn't even bought any players yet or implemented his geggenpressing style.The team he inherited is awfully unbalanced,shy of goals and has a weak spine.
What's with this 'unbalanced' talk?
The squad is average in all areas. Balanced but average.

You don't have to say this just because some dope from The Mirror said it. He also said that Moreno on Aguero wasn't a penalty. He knows the square root of nothing. Think for yourself.
 
What's with this 'unbalanced' talk?
The squad is average in all areas. Balanced but average.

You don't have to say this just because some dope from The Mirror said it. He also said that Moreno on Aguero wasn't a penalty. He knows the square root of nothing. Think for yourself.

You've not met many from the cult have you........
 

What's with this 'unbalanced' talk?
The squad is average in all areas. Balanced but average.

You don't have to say this just because some dope from The Mirror said it. He also said that Moreno on Aguero wasn't a penalty. He knows the square root of nothing. Think for yourself.

unbalanced would be a good right flank but a flakey left flank etc. their keepers are crap, full backs are dire, clyne is alright, but nothing more than mid-table, all of their centre backs are clumsy, their defensive midfielders are possibly their strongest area but all fairly average, i don't think they even have wingers, they have no central midfielders what so ever, their attacking midfielders are inconsistant and vastly overrated and they have a mass of strikers, most of them have issues whether it be fitness, mental or just don't fit the system.

Like you say, not unbalanced .... there's no fecking structure.
 
You're saying Klopp is no better than Brenda...wow.

Klopp has won titles and cups in germany and was close to winning a CL.

He hasn't even bought any players yet or implemented his geggenpressing style.The team he inherited is awfully unbalanced,shy of goals and has a weak spine.

But thought most of the team were 'der best in der wurld' in their positions

When found out blame Brendan I guess
 
Yanks II have - using their decades of cutting edge business experience - taken a long, hard and detailed look at what has gone wrong under their tenure, under that of Yanks I and under the rule of that bloke with the mullet, and come to a conclusion of how best to fix a club that has repeatedly gone wrong when spending substantially in order to overhaul the squad:

"Jürgen Klopp to be given substantial funds to overhaul Liverpool"

Or, as the Guardian's picture editor would say:

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Yanks II have - using their decades of cutting edge business experience - taken a long, hard and detailed look at what has gone wrong under their tenure, under that of Yanks I and under the rule of that bloke with the mullet, and come to a conclusion of how best to fix a club that has repeatedly gone wrong when spending substantially in order to overhaul the squad:

"Jürgen Klopp to be given substantial funds to overhaul Liverpool"

Or, as the Guardian's picture editor would say:

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Great more cash to spunk on expensive garbage, lets all remember when the Ritalin Kid had taken a double dose that day





http://www.theredmentv.com/watch/1043/

his mar must've had to use swarfega to prise him out of wank drenched sheets that morning
 
You're saying Klopp is no better than Brenda...wow.

Klopp has won titles and cups in germany and was close to winning a CL.

He hasn't even bought any players yet or implemented his geggenpressing style.The team he inherited is awfully unbalanced,shy of goals and has a weak spine.

Klopp is a far superior coach to Rodgers no doubt. The thing is Klopp could of went anywhere in the world, he chose to go to Liverpool FC in the hope he could turn them around instantly - proof is in the timing of the sacking. If Everton sacked Martinez now it would be to try and salvage a European spot, if not then why sack him now ? Might as well wait until the summer to rebuild for example. Now don't get me wrong I was a massive Klopp fan, I thought the guy would take over Arsenal or Madrid because in my opinion he was that good, after watching him acting like a idiot in the dugout, running around the pitch after a win, playing the RS like the idiotic puppets that they are, I've realised he is nothing more than a poor mans mourinho - normally id say that would be a half decent manager given jose's pedigree, but its not in this case. He is slowly becoming well suited to their cult blaming everything from the wind to tight muscles in a penalty shootout what's next ? sacking the physio, the tea lady does his cups of tea putting the milk in first - sack her. Its everyone and everything but the averageness of their team, only Coutinho (blows hot and cold) and a fully fit Sturridge would get in our squad.

At the end of the day, Klopp underestimated the size of the task at hand, the fiery, emotional, driving force behind Dortmund has become the puppet master - rather that then the real Jurgen of Dortmund.
 

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