ECHO Comment: "Fears of Witch-hunt Against Liverpool FC"

[PITA]

Said it in the Everton stadium thread that they wouldn't be expanding anfield road anytime soon.

Plenty of spares flying round for them these days. They are getting more and more like United where the old school fans go away and don't bother with the home games.

They can't have many old school fans then.

 

[footballcrazy]

Another jammy win.....

 

[ianefc]

Another jammy win.....

No

 

[jaybx1878]

That open goal swansea missed in the last minute aswell, u can bet if that was against us he would have burst the net, the lucky breaks they get are never ending.

 

[Blues Harp]

That open goal swansea missed in the last minute aswell, u can bet if that was against us he would have burst the net, the lucky breaks they get are never ending.

just as well we got a lucky break last night when the CP 2nd goal was chalked off eh ??

 

[jaybx1878]

just as well we got a lucky break last night when the CP 2nd goal was chalked off eh ??

We get far more of these things going against us though, its all one way with those rats.

 

[MikeH72]

They get loads of pens because they throw 8 players forward every time they attack and it disorientates opposition defenders and makes them panic. I don't know why teams still aren't prepared for it and fall for it every time.

 

[Dharma bum411]

You know, maybe Liverpool get penalties because they have people in the box.... That has already been stated above me but really an attacking team will get more penalties then a team that relies on one striker doing something.

 

[Zatara]

He's well behind Koeman mate. Look at the trophies both have won. Klopp has 3 Koeman has 9. Klopp has never finished in the top 7 in England Koeman has done it in every season. Move beyond the Kopite propaganda and deal in facts and you can see he is not in the same league as Mourinho, Guardiola or Koeman.

I'm with @Ashtonian on this one mate.

Koeman has 8 trophies
3 are charity shields
3 Dutch leagues
1 Dutch cup
1 Spanish cup

Klopp has 5 trophies
2 German League titles
3 German Cup wins

Klopps side was 2nd to bayern every season he was there, Koeman managed the Dutch favourites every trophy win.

 

[cronullasharks]

You know, maybe Liverpool get penalties because they have people in the box.... That has already been stated above me but really an attacking team will get more penalties then a team that relies on one striker doing something.

Hmmm

 

[Zatara]

We also have to look at the times they were managing. In Holland his first title came over a decade ago and the Dutch league has significantly declined since then. If you look at his team at Ajax, he had some very good players.

Likewise Klopp won the Bundesliga initially when Bayern were going through a difficult period. When they got their act together he was miles away which is why he left.

I don't buy this idea that Klopps trophies are worth more or Koeman's can't be counted as they are in Holland. Koeman has won trophies in 3 separate countries and won wide critical acclaim in a 4th. He also has more trophies. The rats on RAWK seem to think no sane person could say Koeman was better than Klopp. If your definition of sane is being able to count trophies then that statement will be proven untrue.

Only the flat earthers in society, the ones who are too thick to add up (essentially the Kopites) would make a claim that a manager with less trophies has been more successful than one with more trophies. I mean for Christ sake yesterday on their site they likened to Mourinho to Allardyce and Pulis in managerial ability. I mean how can you possibly begin to try and rationalise a response to that?

Koemans 2 trophies overseas at Valencia and Benfica.

Valencia he won the cup when he was well on his way to getting them relegated. They city didnt even celebrate the cup win and he was sacked soon after.

Benfica he won their charity shield.

 

[longers]

They are annoyingly good, easily good enough to finish top 4 this season. No one seems to have a clue how to defend against them.

It's also annoying how they are doing it with a squad featuring some very average players.

 

[Goat]

Koemans 2 trophies overseas at Valencia and Benfica.

Valencia he won the cup when he was well on his way to getting them relegated. They city didnt even celebrate the cup win and he was sacked soon after.

Benfica he won their charity shield.

Think you are overrating Dortmund personally, they arent some no mark club, they are the 3rd most successful team in Germany, 3rd to Nurnberg who havent won a Title in almost 50 years. Klopp has won 5 trophies at 1 club, Koeman has won 8 trophies at 5 different clubs.

For the record, I think Klopp is a better manager, but personally I dont think hes been more successful than Koeman, Klopp is 4 years younger, but they both took their first managerial roles roughly at the same time. Klopp has also been at the club for a season longer, I think it would be fairer to judge both managers next season, when you would hope we have invested a lot bit more into the squad.

Thats not to say we cant finish above them this season, they are currently flying and we arent, but things can change quite quickly.

 

[thirdmantackle]

Even RAWK Meltdown on twitter has decided to give it up

 

[Prevenger17]

Valencia he won the cup when he was well on his way to getting them relegated. They city didnt even celebrate the cup win and he was sacked soon after.

Valencia sacked a manager!!?