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ECHO Comment: "Fears of Witch-hunt Against Liverpool FC"

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davek said:
https://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2016/oct/07/jurgen-klopp-liverpool-energy-giver

More Klopp The Messiah stuff.

He apparently doesn't allow the lack of finances at Liverpool to be spoken about or used as an excuse.

FFS.
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That will last until they have a few injuries and have taken 1 pt from 9. When rawk is in melt down following a loss away at palace, Herr Klopp will inevitably come out with the " it is harder for us as other clubs have a bigger budget and bigger squad" line, which will then appease the masses
 

https://www.theguardian.com/footbal...-gary-mcallister-liverpool-everton-april-2001

From yesterday's Guardian.

A horrendous event that still bugs me to be fair. One of those slow-motion moments when you knew it could be averted, but the inevitable surrender was all too clear. A total F UP of a day.

However, take note of this snide aside in the article: "Reporting for the Guardian, Paul Walker described the 164th meeting of Merseyside’s big two as “chaotic” and “spiteful” and for Liverpool, the hostilities began prior to kick-off when a minority of Everton fans failed to respect a minute’s silence for the 96 victims of the Hillsborough disaster".

Hmmm. IRRC (I should do as I was there), the stadium announcer made reference to Hillsborough, Bradford, Ibrox, the (then recent) stadium disaster in South Africa...and that was it. Quite why someone at the club felt the need to announce these events over the PA and not include the disaster that occurred on May 29th 1985 is mystifying. The fact it was televised made it even worse. I clearly remember a voice in the Bullens during the supposed silence yelling out: "What abbar Heysel?"

To be completely honest, I was thinking absolutely the same thing myself. But in a weird way, it felt as though the PA statement was almost inciting someone to shout out a response. By leaving that gap, it was almost as if a retort was expected. Do I feel bad about the silence being disrupted? Or course I do, I'm ashamed that it happened. On the flip side however, the one blemish in our otherwise totally respectful approach to the anniversary of the disaster can be somewhat explained by the fact it was presented in an alarmingly selective manner and was seized on by a gleeful RS loving media.

An element of RS fans use the anniversary to try and make us look bad year-in, year-out, it seems. They are desperately willing us to break silences, attack memorials, do these phantom "Face crushing" gestures (nope, can't say I've ever seen them either, and if I had I would have given people doing it - whatever it may look like - a good slapping).

Bitterness? No. Cold reality? I would say so. This gradual revision of history and the attempt to minimize the disgraceful behaviour of their support and the subsequent "Let's move on and forget about it...." attitude of their playing staff involved (Apart from Phil Neal, who wanted payment to talk about it.)

It seems the media still want to pull a hatchet job and paint EFC as the bad guys. If history has taught us anything, that's far from the case.
 
rylojr said:
https://www.theguardian.com/footbal...-gary-mcallister-liverpool-everton-april-2001

From yesterday's Guardian.

A horrendous event that still bugs me to be fair. One of those slow-motion moments when you knew it could be averted, but the inevitable surrender was all too clear. A total F UP of a day.

However, take note of this snide aside in the article: "Reporting for the Guardian, Paul Walker described the 164th meeting of Merseyside’s big two as “chaotic” and “spiteful” and for Liverpool, the hostilities began prior to kick-off when a minority of Everton fans failed to respect a minute’s silence for the 96 victims of the Hillsborough disaster".

Hmmm. IRRC (I should do as I was there), the stadium announcer made reference to Hillsborough, Bradford, Ibrox, the (then recent) stadium disaster in South Africa...and that was it. Quite why someone at the club felt the need to announce these events over the PA and not include the disaster that occurred on May 29th 1985 is mystifying. The fact it was televised made it even worse. I clearly remember a voice in the Bullens during the supposed silence yelling out: "What abbar Heysel?"

To be completely honest, I was thinking absolutely the same thing myself. But in a weird way, it felt as though the PA statement was almost inciting someone to shout out a response. By leaving that gap, it was almost as if a retort was expected. Do I feel bad about the silence being disrupted? Or course I do, I'm ashamed that it happened. On the flip side however, the one blemish in our otherwise totally respectful approach to the anniversary of the disaster can be somewhat explained by the fact it was presented in an alarmingly selective manner and was seized on by a gleeful RS loving media.

An element of RS fans use the anniversary to try and make us look bad year-in, year-out, it seems. They are desperately willing us to break silences, attack memorials, do these phantom "Face crushing" gestures (nope, can't say I've ever seen them either, and if I had I would have given people doing it - whatever it may look like - a good slapping).

Bitterness? No. Cold reality? I would say so. This gradual revision of history and the attempt to minimize the disgraceful behaviour of their support and the subsequent "Let's move on and forget about it...." attitude of their playing staff involved (Apart from Phil Neal, who wanted payment to talk about it.)

It seems the media still want to pull a hatchet job and paint EFC as the bad guys. If history has taught us anything, that's far from the case.
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Probably said a 100 times before.

but what gets me about it is how this country has essentially airbrushed that from history. Of everything that has happened in football with English clubs, the ONLY thing that is never mentioned or remembered is that. No-one dare mention it either.

and even worse is that any mention of it to kopites and they either dismiss it like it doesn't exist, throw something far less serious everton have done, or worst of all, just keep mentioning Hillsborough and turn any comments into being related to that.
 
davek said:
https://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2016/oct/07/jurgen-klopp-liverpool-energy-giver

More Klopp The Messiah stuff.

He apparently doesn't allow the lack of finances at Liverpool to be spoken about or used as an excuse.

FFS.
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Just gonna stick up a couple of quotes from that sycophantic waffle-

" just as Klopp and his wife, Ulla, have embraced living on Merseyside. He gets the place."

"The overriding message, however, was for the entire club to create conditions for “emotional football” to exist."



I utterly hate that massive whopper and the bullcrap nonsensical claptrap that him and FC Big Stand continually spew out, ffs an eight page pull out in tonight's echo on "The Normal One", strewth:mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:
 

They beat Arsenal reserves, beat a poor Chelsea side, drew with an understrength Spurs, lost to Burnley, needed a stupid penalty to beat Swansea and beat Hull who had about 6 first teamers fit.

Been very lucky with injuries too. Few injuries and it's origi instead of strridge, moreno instead of Milner, Can instead of Coutinho and Grujic instead of Mane.

Now, Mane, Milner, Coutinho and Sturridge arent world beaters and they'd probably drop away anyway but their replacements are seriously sub standard and they are the team who will be most affected by injuries in the entire league. Once the treatment starts getting a bit full they will drop away sharply. Can't see them finishing top 6 personally.
 
Steve0 said:
They beat Arsenal reserves, beat a poor Chelsea side, drew with an understrength Spurs, lost to Burnley, needed a stupid penalty to beat Swansea and beat Hull who had about 6 first teamers fit.

Been very lucky with injuries too. Few injuries and it's origi instead of strridge, moreno instead of Milner, Can instead of Coutinho and Grujic instead of Mane.

Now, Mane, Milner, Coutinho and Sturridge arent world beaters and they'd probably drop away anyway but their replacements are seriously sub standard and they are the team who will be most affected by injuries in the entire league. Once the treatment starts getting a bit full they will drop away sharply. Can't see them finishing top 6 personally.
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Just to play devil's advocate, you could have said the same about Leicester last year.
 
Dan Tanner said:
Just gonna stick up a couple of quotes from that sycophantic waffle-

" just as Klopp and his wife, Ulla, have embraced living on Merseyside. He gets the place."

"The overriding message, however, was for the entire club to create conditions for “emotional football” to exist."



I utterly hate that massive whopper and the bullcrap nonsensical claptrap that him and FC Big Stand continually spew out, ffs an eight page pull out in tonight's echo on "The Normal One", strewth:mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:
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What the hell is 'emotional football', is this another attempt to make themselves feel important. Look at us we play emotional football, nobody else does.

I am actually imagining it to be players who start crying after they complete a 5 yard pass or maybe quote an 'emotional' monologue over the PA system when they score.
 
They have match winners like any other team gunning for the top 6/7 places but there is certainly no need to 'worry' about them or any other team, for that matter.
 
Dan Tanner said:
Just gonna stick up a couple of quotes from that sycophantic waffle-

" just as Klopp and his wife, Ulla, have embraced living on Merseyside. He gets the place."

"The overriding message, however, was for the entire club to create conditions for “emotional football” to exist."



I utterly hate that massive whopper and the bullcrap nonsensical claptrap that him and FC Big Stand continually spew out, ffs an eight page pull out in tonight's echo on "The Normal One", strewth:mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:
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"Emotional football"

This seasons "Make us dream".

A club run on a mixture of maudlin sentiment, extreme violence and bigotry.

An utter basket case of an organisation that should have had its gates locked after Heysel and then obliterated from the landscape.
 

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