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ECHO Comment: "Fears of Witch-hunt Against Liverpool FC"

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davek said:
Kopite caller on the radio: "Dat win wuz down to Klopp. He was using his technical area to get der crowd goin and he provided der buzz dat gorruz over der line lad."
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On a serious note, this sort of thing can go one of two ways - either yes, it works, OR, and this is the risk, it'll anger the crowd (usually non-day-tripper fans) into mass negativity by way of feeling patronised.

This would not work at Goodison. While I feel there's quite a bit of unwarranted negativity at present (some is warranted, but not this level), as we are largely not day-trippers, this would not work for us at all.

Koeman, Martinez, Moyes - whoever it was would get their backsides handed to them on a plate of they did this.

Remember, Klopp had them all holding hands and celebrating a late 2-2 draw with WBA not so long ago. That's sad.
 
Groucho said:
On a serious note, this sort of thing can go one of two ways - either yes, it works, OR, and this is the risk, it'll anger the crowd (usually non-day-tripper fans) into mass negativity by way of feeling patronised.

This would not work at Goodison. While I feel there's quite a bit of unwarranted negativity at present (some is warranted, but not this level), as we are largely not day-trippers, this would not work for us at all.

Koeman, Martinez, Moyes - whoever it was would get their backsides handed to them on a plate of they did this.

Remember, Klopp had them all holding hands and celebrating a late 2-2 draw with WBA not so long ago. That's sad.
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When I saw the video of this incident last night on MOTD I was shocked by it. He's actually effing and blinding his own fans for not providing the atmosphere. There was real anger toward them.

Of course, with a win he becomes the next Shankly because of it.
 
davek said:
When I saw the video of this incident last night on MOTD I was shocked by it. He's actually effing and blinding his own fans for not providing the atmosphere. There was real anger toward them.

Of course, with a win he becomes the next Shankly because of it.
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Bit odd, yeah?
 

Groucho said:
Bit odd, yeah?
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As you said earlier: it can go two ways. If that ended in a defeat yesterday I think the reaction from their lot would be a lot different. It's playing with fire. They could easily have reacted post match with fury - bubble burst for another season and accusing Klopp of not getting anything on the pitch together that brought them to the edge of their seats.

It's all very fragile at Liverpool. It's the reason they wont go on a title winning campaign this season at least. Their morale is quite soft under the hard surface, and if they pick up a long term injury to both Lallana and Coutinho then it's game over...maybe even for a CL spot.
 
Groucho said:
Bit odd, yeah?
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I find it slightly odd and as you rightly mentioned earlier it would not suit Everton, yet I do feel that there are elements of change emerging.

Klopp and Conte are both very good managers in their own aspects which is key to their team's success, but I do feel their enthusiasm also helps.

I suspect the influence itself is primarily for the players, however it is also more visibly manifesting itself with the supporters of the club.

A supportive and enthusiastic crowd can play a significant part in a club's success on the pitch - the proverbial twelfth man so to say.

You could also look at José of old as an example. It's clearly not in Koeman's repertoire, although perhaps a little more enthusiasm could help us.

We may laugh and cringe at the apparent crass behaviour of Klopp and it may one day crumble for all to see, but right now I'd say it is working.
 

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