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ECHO Comment: "Fears of Witch-hunt Against Liverpool FC"

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For all the bluster yesterday showed them up for what they are. Forgetting winning the title they will find it very difficult to make the top 4 with a defence and goalkeeper as bad as they have. Remember when the beauts were trying to claim a lad who looks league 1 standard was as good as Neuer?

Alongside that if they get a couple of injuries the squad is painfully thin and they lack the ability to win games when the pressure is on. If you have aspirations of challenging to win stuff you need to get wins at places like Burnley and Bournemouth. You should also be scoring at home to United.

They are currently joint 4th. Before the Coutinho injury and before all the other sides who played in Europe get a run at the league now. That kind of sums up their best hope. They are miles behind Chelsea, Arsenal and even City. If United up their game a bit which you'd expect in the second half of the season they'll fall down behind them too, and Spurs without Europe stand a good chance of overtaking them. That leaves them competing with ourselves and West Brom for 7th place. That's where I see them finishing, not that it will stop all their bluster and spivtastic behaviour from their fans and unfortunately that infiltrating the minds of some on here who have got caught along with their false euphoria at being joint 4th in December.
 
catcherintherye said:
That leaves them competing with ourselves and West Brom for 7th place.
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I think they'll do better tbf. They're in far better shape than United, not as good as Spurs possibly but, and I think we can all at least admit this, they are a huge cut above us and the rest of the teams around us atm. They've got a good side, all singing off the same hymn sheet.

The biggest question marks are over whether they can sustain those levels over the whole season (I hope not) and what a few injuries could do to them (potentially catastrophic). Whatever people say about Klopp, he has a proven ability to forge teams that are better than the sum of their parts.

That's all the nice things I will say about them. Their fans are mutants and, in our past 2 and a bit years of under-performance, their tears are about the only good thing about football that's available to me at the minute. Until they've sunk completely out of contention, I'm man enough to admit I might lose a a few minutes of sleep at night, because a Liverpool league win would be unfathomable
 
Prevenger17 said:
I think they'll do better tbf. They're in far better shape than United, not as good as Spurs possibly but, and I think we can all at least admit this, they are a huge cut above us and the rest of the teams around us atm. They've got a good side, all singing off the same hymn sheet.

The biggest question marks are over whether they can sustain those levels over the whole season (I hope not) and what a few injuries could do to them (potentially catastrophic). Whatever people say about Klopp, he has a proven ability to forge teams that are better than the sum of their parts.

That's all the nice things I will say about them. Their fans are mutants and, in our past 2 and a bit years of under-performance, their tears are about the only good thing about football that's available to me at the minute. Until they've sunk completely out of contention, I'm man enough to admit I might lose a a few minutes of sleep at night, because a Liverpool league win would be unfathomable
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That's a fair point. They are currently points wise a long way ahead of United. However Liverpool couldn't have performed much better so far they feel like they are in top gear, whereas United look to me as if they have barely got going. I know most teams can do this, but against Stoke, Burnley, West Ham, Arsenal and to an extent even ourselves United through away points. If they'd have converted maximum points there they'd be above Liverpool. That's also with the Europa league holding them back.

There's little doubt now, that in the next 2-3 months without European football the 6 clubs involved in it's league form should take an upturn. I imagine Mourinho will see a big improvement as the season goes on. Whether it's enough to catch Liverpool I don't know, but I sense they needed to build a bigger lead on their rivals during the good times.
 

catcherintherye said:
That's a fair point. They are currently points wise a long way ahead of United. However Liverpool couldn't have performed much better so far they feel like they are in top gear, whereas United look to me as if they have barely got going. I know most teams can do this, but against Stoke, Burnley, West Ham, Arsenal and to an extent even ourselves United through away points. If they'd have converted maximum points there they'd be above Liverpool. That's also with the Europa league holding them back.

There's little doubt now, that in the next 2-3 months without European football the 6 clubs involved in it's league form should take an upturn. I imagine Mourinho will see a big improvement as the season goes on. Whether it's enough to catch Liverpool I don't know, but I sense they needed to build a bigger lead on their rivals during the good times.
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Aye, they have it all to do and, I'm reasonably sure, they won't be able to do it.

Anyway, I'm a little uncomfortable discussing their league hopes in this thread, which I have held to be a sacred venue for ripping them and the texans that follow them to shreds. Think we need to get back to that sort of banter because, right now, we're verging dangerously close to taking them seriously.

Also, I wonder if Grundy will come on here and apologise to the City of Liverpool for his lies and exploitation of the Hillsborough disaster?
 
I trhink what we saw yesterday was that their pressing game, when it comes up against a team with equal energy (if not more), renders them liable to run out of steam in the last 15 minutes. With a comfortable lead, and their opponents giving up an clawing it back, they see out the last 15. Yesterday, Bournemouth did NOT give it up, went after them, and I was surprised at how they laboured in those last 15 plus added. Others have said on here that they would not be able to sustain that fast-paced game all season. I think yesterday, we saw for the first time that dumb cluck come home to roost...! :) ;)
 
Like everyone worked out you could rely on us to bottle a lead if you didn't get demoralised after conceding and put us under pressure last season, the whole league will now be well aware that if you keep plugging away you can get a collapse/cheap goals out of Liverpool, regardless of your quality of players.
 

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