ECHO Comment: "Fears of Witch-hunt Against Liverpool FC"

toffeejack · October 20, 2017

Saint Domingo said:
That CL group is still a joke though. Only Liverpool could come in after a lengthy absence and by freak of the draw end up with the easiest group going.

how many seasons now have they been in the "champions" league without actually being champions for over two decades?

toffeejack · October 20, 2017

Deckard2049 said:
Using the dead to have a pop at the RS. It's honestly disgusting. There's no real sincerity, let alone sympathy, to be found here for those involved in these incidents. I'd rather people just admitted they were annoyed we were banned from Europe than pretended they gave a monkeys.

unsurprising to see you pop up here

Deckard2049 · October 20, 2017

toffeejack said:
unsurprising to see you pop up here

A couple of our fans act like morons and people use it to bring up Heysel. I'll leave that disaster to the people whom it belongs to, you know, people with actual grievances. That is the juventus supporters who died, the many more Italians injured and those who had to live with the aftermath. Feel free to use it for your own agenda.

MikeH72 · October 20, 2017

I heard the fan that allegedly hit the Lyon keeper was in bed.

wilfjacko · October 20, 2017

I heard he was doing a bit of overtime
Laying paving stones.

d34noj · October 20, 2017

Deckard2049 said:
A couple of our fans act like morons and people use it to bring up Heysel. I'll leave that disaster to the people whom it belongs to, you know, people with actual grievances. That is the juventus supporters who died, the many more Italians injured and those who had to live with the aftermath. Feel free to use it for your own agenda.

So Everton, along with a whole host of other English teams shouldn't have a grievance with Liverpool over Heysel?

paulbefc · October 20, 2017

Deckard2049 said:
A couple of our fans act like morons and people use it to bring up Heysel. I'll leave that disaster to the people whom it belongs to, you know, people with actual grievances. That is the juventus supporters who died, the many more Italians injured and those who had to live with the aftermath. Feel free to use it for your own agenda.

I bet the families of the victims are proper devastated that Liverpool fans aren't allowed to forget that happened.

dead_soft · October 20, 2017

mellowblue said:
we have already condemned the action of ONE stupid fan.....pity that lot never did over ...well there are too many examples to bring up aren't there??

Not covering yourself in glory

Deckard2049 · October 20, 2017

d34noj said:
So Everton, along with a whole host of other English teams shouldn't have a grievance with Liverpool over Heysel?

Perfectly fine to have a grievance. That's not what's been going on today though from some quarters. As I originally stated, we had a few fans acting like morons. One in particular has already been identified and been banned by the club. I just don't understand why people feel the need to essentially come out and say "not as bad as heysel though is it ay ay". The fan was an idiot. He's receiving his punishment. That's the end of it.

If you want to talk about the unfair impact Heysel had on English clubs, especially ours, then believe me I'm totally with you. I just think utilising such an incident to have a pop is disrespectful and unecessary. We're getting a bit of stick from fans all across the country due to one of ours holding his child whilst throwing really lame punches at an opposition player- that's just comical really. We just have to take this one on the chin and laugh at it rather than be so defensive.

d34noj · October 20, 2017

Deckard2049 said:
Perfectly fine to have a grievance. That's not what's been going on today though from some quarters. As I originally stated, we had a few fans acting like morons. One in particular has already been identified and been banned by the club. I just don't understand why people feel the need to essentially come out and say "not as bad as heysel though is it ay ay". The fan was an idiot. He's receiving his punishment. That's the end of it.

If you want to talk about the unfair impact Heysel had on English clubs, especially ours, then believe me I'm totally with you. I just think utilising such an incident to have a pop is disrespectful and unecessary. We're getting a bit of stick from fans all across the country due to one of ours holding his child whilst throwing really lame punches at an opposition player- that's just comical really. We just have to take this one on the chin and laugh at it rather than be so defensive.

Which is all absolutely fine.

I think it's the 'whiter than white' attitude of our affable neighbours which is the issue.

wilfjacko · October 20, 2017

dead_soft said:
Not covering yourself in glory

Nor are you.

Cork Evertonian · October 21, 2017

dead_soft said:
Not covering yourself in glory

The truth hurts doesn't it mate?

Cork Evertonian · October 21, 2017

Deckard2049 said:
Using the dead to have a pop at the RS. It's honestly disgusting. There's no real sincerity, let alone sympathy, to be found here for those involved in these incidents. I'd rather people just admitted they were annoyed we were banned from Europe than pretended they gave a monkeys.

Oh a proper nasty one you are.I think Evertonians have shown a lot mote sympathy to the victims of Heysell over the years, than all the fans players and officials combined over at big stand fc.

PITA · October 22, 2017

Cork Evertonian said:
Oh a proper nasty one you are.I think Evertonians have shown a lot mote sympathy to the victims of Heysell over the years, than all the fans players and officials combined over at big stand fc.

To be fair the RS did put up a plaque 30 years after the event.

duncs pigeon · October 22, 2017

Cork Evertonian said:
Oh a proper nasty one you are.I think Evertonians have shown a lot mote sympathy to the victims of Heysell over the years, than all the fans players and officials combined over at big stand fc.

You' ve got that wrong mate- its.FC big stand.