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ECHO Comment: "Fears of Witch-hunt Against Liverpool FC"

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If they lose in Kiev, it will be another trophy-less season, and at least 19 points behind the CHAMPIONS Citteh.

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a lot depends on whether we can get at least a point vs West Ham. Should we get to 50 points, and they lose the game in Kiev, I think we can lay claim to having had the more successful season. Certainly we will have wrested the initiative from them as we look forward to next season. But as you imply, if they can win a pot, even a non-domestic one, argument can be made that their season has just shaded ours in terms of tangible return. But I am not entirely convinced that tangible outcome necessarily trumps the intangible. A case could be made that our trophy cabinet is better stocked than theirs if our work in the community and our providing a stable and nurturing 'family' environment for our players is taken in to acccount and were this awarded silverware. Yes, the more cynical on here might therein accuse a 'clutching at straws' dialectic but I guess that's just a shade of grey (i.e. open to debate). Kiev notwithstanding, Evertonians have been presented a season which, on the basis of the club's social consciousness, is one we can all take pride in...and pride of place on Merseyside

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I've signed up to about four religions since that shower made the final, will be praying to christ, god, budda, that elephant thing and anyone else to stop the cult winning it


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I’ve been to Kiev, twice....once in the waybyo Kharkiv for s night and once when we played Dynamo. The stadium is [Poor language removed], so the city.

They’ve had a great run but if they lose that final, the enjoyment I’ll get will surpass anything they’ve experienced up to now.

This season has been the worst in living memory for me but the RS can still salvage it for me.

I’ll be in Marbella when the final is on and I know it’s coming now so I’m looking forward to it.

If they ended up with nothing but a Europa Lge spot........jeezus, after all the bravado, it’s the stuff of dreams that, it probably surpasses slip day & Crystal Palace.
 
Ronaldo, Isco and Carvajal will be fit for the CL Final. As crucial as Ronaldo and an in form Isco to turn to are, Carvajal will be a massive boost as they've struggled with Vasquez at FB while he's been out.

The main reason he played Vazquez right back was not just Carvajal was injured but Nacho was rushed back to sit on bench v Bayern and came on at the end. Yeaterday Nacho played and Vazquez was benched, he is definitely no right back. By thr time the final comes round, Zidane will have his two first choice right backs fit.

On a side note this is a very interesting watch, last year, Zidane’s half time team talk. I like how he lets them recover, and doesn’t rant and rave, he gives them a couple of minutes of what they need to do to win. A proper winner.

 

The main reason he played Vazquez right back was not just Carvajal was injured but Nacho was rushed back to sit on bench v Bayern and came on at the end. Yeaterday Nacho played and Vazquez was benched, he is definitely no right back. By thr time the final comes round, Zidane will have his two first choice right backs fit.

On a side note this is a very interesting watch, last year, Zidane’s half time team talk. I like how he lets them recover, and doesn’t rant and rave, he gives them a couple of minutes of what they need to do to win. A proper winner.


I wouldn't be concerned if Zidane named himself on the bench.
Even now, he's still better than Henderson.
 
The main reason he played Vazquez right back was not just Carvajal was injured but Nacho was rushed back to sit on bench v Bayern and came on at the end. Yeaterday Nacho played and Vazquez was benched, he is definitely no right back. By thr time the final comes round, Zidane will have his two first choice right backs fit.

On a side note this is a very interesting watch, last year, Zidane’s half time team talk. I like how he lets them recover, and doesn’t rant and rave, he gives them a couple of minutes of what they need to do to win. A proper winner.


Nice. What a great video.

Play more aggressive and play at a higher tempo.
 
Henderson being fit will nullify all that though.

Apparently.
In a way I'm looking forward to getting this final out the way. It's like a looming grey cloud and I just want it to pass over. I think overwhelmingly Madrid have got this in hand. If Liverpool beat them then it'll be as a result of a series of miscalculations by the officials and Madrid players. If Madrid are still hungry to make history I see a long night for Liverpool - who have fallen alarmingly for them out of form (if they;d faced Barcelona last night they;d have been buried, for example).
 
Booked my holiday so that the final falls on the middle weekend of it, so I'll miss the final stretch of the endless build up and the aftermath of "de greatest team eva" or "we wuz robbed".

I've learned my lesson from the last time they won it when, passing a pub, I couldn't help but notice a load of extra/extra large red shirted oafs looking forlorn. With a quickening heartbeat I asked them the score, 3 down, so ventured in to revel in the 2nd half. I should have known better. I left on 90 minutes knowing what the outcome would be.
 

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