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Everton 2012/13 season

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At least writing off young players after a handful of games hasn't changed.
I'm not writing him off - it was more of a statement about how underrated Fellaini was and how we seem to have accepted mediocrity ever since the Moyes days

I'm sure Onana will end up being a decent Premier League player - but I remember the overreaction of our fans when we signed him thinking he was the new Viera
 
moyes left us in the summer of 2013

the 3-3 game was in November 2013 about 4 months after he left

the majority of that team was moyes'

its probably a key factor why martinez's first season went so well
Yeah, ive had this argument before, about it being Moyes side and giving Martinez no credit at all.

Its probably also why United improved on their previous position of 1st that next year as well.
 
The main difference between the 2-2 (Moyes) derby and the 3-3 (Martinez) derby was how well we played for large parts of the latter. The former game (2-2) we spent virtually the whole 90 mins looking like we were trying to hang in there with a better team (even though we finished above them that season). The season after we faced a far better RS team, more than matched them and should have won.
 

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