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Everton change bridging loan from Barclays to company in BVI

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GOT NEWS ALERT!

Dave K's backtracking on his initial assertion and is now claiming its a Bridging loan

not a new Mortgage as he initially asserted.

Not like to backtrack on something you said and then claim something else is it?

Kenwright's claims/complaints regarding Agents rings true. His Scouting/Agents fees show the drain they are to the club.

Hence (my misplaced) outrage when it was less than clear what those fees were...
 
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Earl has not guaranteed the loan for the club....he has (probably) provided the loan to the club as (probably) one of the invisible owners of the Virgin Islands entity....Vibrac. For the one year loan Vibrac (Earl) takes 10% interest.....£1.3M.

Whatever Damon Buffet has to say on the subject won't change the fact that yet again we're borrowing in advance against income not yet received.

I hear what your saying mate, but probably is the most used word in your post.
 
So your allegation mate, is that Earl is taking the 1.3mill out of the club and pocketing it privately. What im saying is he has gaurenteed the loan on behlaf and Everton pay the loan back the princpal and interest - which go to the lending institution.

If you can prove otherwise - youve won me over - if i thought that money was going out of the club and being pocketed be a director for a profit or leveraged - then i would be total agreement with you - but i think your wrong here.

How would anyone draw that conclusion?

It's simple enough: Everton have shifted lending institutions who provide this bridging loan. Now it's shifted again and the deal seems to be that instead of Everton paying £1.6M pa for that *priviledge* we now pay £1.3M to a club director.

Now you can only arrive at this point: do you think the saving of £0.3M is acceptable if it means that £1.3m is going to a club director? That's the moral hazard here. I know what I think.

I suppose at the end of the day you could make all kinds of tortuous arguments trying to redefine who's paying what to whom in an effort to defend the indefensible. It's far easier to call a spade a spade and say what you see in front of you though.
 
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How would anyone draw that conclusion?

It's simple enough: Everton have shifted lending institutions who provide this bridging loan. Now it's shifted again and the deal seems to be that instead of Everton paying £1.6M pa for that *priviledge* we now pay £1.3M to a club director.

Now you can only arrive at this point: do you think the saving of £0.3M is acceptable if it means that £1.3m is going to a club director? That's the moral hazard here. I know what I think.

I suppose at the end of the day you could make all kinds of tortuous arguments trying to redefine who's paying what to whom in an effort to defend the indefensible. It's far easier to call a spade a spade and say what you see in front of you though.

I might be getting the wrong end of the stick here mate are you saying that Vibrac is Robert Earl or some form of BCR. Rather then him being the middle man?
 

I might be getting the wrong end of the stick here mate are you saying that Vibrac is Robert Earl or some form of BCR. Rather then him being the middle man?

It's not BCR. It's another vehicle being used by Earl/Green. If that's ever proven wrong I'll be happy to eat a large slice of humble pie. Like I say, you can look for get out arguments from what's staring you in the face all day long.
 
It's not BCR. It's another vehicle being used by Earl/Green. If that's ever proven wrong I'll be happy to eat a large slice of humble pie. Like I say, you can look for get out arguments from what's staring you in the face all day long.

We dont know that for certain mate, if that is true then i am 100% on board, have we any proof either way that Vibrac is a arm of Earl or just a lending instituiton. It seems at the moment no one knows for certain and just guessing.

Like i say if it can be proven i am 100% behind you?
 

We dont know that for certain mate, if that is true then i am 100% on board, have we any proof either way that Vibrac is a arm of Earl or just a lending instituiton. It seems at the moment no one knows for certain and just guessing.

Like i say if it can be proven i am 100% behind you?

That's fine by me mate. A reasonable point to leave this issue at: Is it all a big coincidence, or is there something more to it than that? Let people decide for themselves what connection, if any, there is between these individuals and institutions.
 
Do you accept that Earl owns shares in Everton through BCR...the ownership of BCR can't be proven either.

Very much so but this isnt unusual in football mate, indeed i think at this stage Kenwright is on his third company or fourth holding company for his shares in Everton.

If its the Philip Green thing your hinting at i dont know if i buy it or not - its a bit of a tin foil hat theory tbh mate.
 
Even Kenwright hasn't obscured his holdings by registering companies in the British Virgin Islands yet. Probably waiting till he understands accounts. :o
 
Taking out loans to pay for loans is madness !!

I run a£5 million pound turnover buisness think I may apply to everton because they don't have a clue !! It's like food shopping on your credit card but worse think we are in a real ££ mess ! All these deals with big cola bet fair etc these need to be bigger deals £10 mill of Chang is nothing ! Gotta a feeling goodison will have it's name sold next as we have nothing left other than players to sell and moyes won't allow that
 

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