Everton. I hate you.

[toffeejack]

How many blues, honestly believe we will win a derby before it? It's mad.

Liverpool are a better side and have been for 95% of my life. However, are palace better than Chelsea? No but they beat them the other week. The gap isn't that big, this isn't Man City v Exeter. It's a one off game, the one game you should be up for, and for me, we never are.

Tbf most of it isn't to do with them being better. We are massive bottlers of course and never play well, but I've been following Everton for 23 years and they've beaten us more times because of a dodgy decision than because they actually deserved it. That's the most frustrating and depressing thing for me. It's made me dislike football tbh.

I don't watch it anymore, it's all about cheats prospering but nothings ever done. I mean all pride has gone in football now, I suspect the kids are all seeing who can do the best dives these days as opposed to actually trying to beat each other.

 

[Jonte]

Respect to Sammy Lee tonight, though, for openly getting behind us in front of that lot.

 

[Wat Tyler]

Tbf most of it isn't to do with them being better. We are massive bottlers of course and never play well, but I've been following Everton for 23 years and they've beaten us more times because of a dodgy decision than because they actually deserved it. That's the most frustrating and depressing thing for me. It's made me dislike football tbh.

I don't watch it anymore, it's all about cheats prospering but nothings ever done. I mean all pride has gone in football now, I suspect the kids are all seeing who can do the best dives these days as opposed to actually trying to beat each other.

I got a message when they got their pen: KARMA!

Decided not to bite. Beauts.

 

[toffeejack]

I got a message when they got their pen: KARMA!

Decided not to bite. Beauts.

Karma will be that fake evertonian in his stupid Alice band getting sparked when he visits goodison.

 

[St Domigos]

And the mad thing is, it needed someone to come in and promise the world to fully realise it.

Hard to imagine a squad that can be as devoid of quality as this with over £300m spent on it and ending up with Allardyce as the manager.

£300m were do you get this figure from?

 

[JelavicBrate2]

Finished with Everton now until Kenwright and his cronies have gone. Its an utter waste of my precious time.

We were woeful in the 90s but I actually liked our players and loved some of the managers. With the exception of the youth set up, as mentioned there is not a single thing to like about the club. This is the worst season I have known in 35 years supporting the club, when you consider some of the finishes that takes some doing before the first Saturday in January.

I agree, just remember the resilience of Moyes side we last went there in the FA cup. He certainly wasn't perfect but at least we had fight, we players like who actually cared about the fans. Wouldn't we love a player, who loved the club like Cahill or some of his other colleagues who realized playing for Everton mattered. When we could be awful 1 week and go out the next week and destroy Man City. There's just no character in that side, when it was 1-1 somebody should of been saying, lets keep this going or have a go at them. Bolaises shot at the end and Niasse smiling when we puts the ball out for a goal kick, hardly makes me feel like they care. Jags, Holgate, Sigs, Lookman and Rooney put work in but the rest were awful. I always felt even when we had lots of injuries or were playing poor under Moyes, that we would at least try our best. The Chelsea FA cup game in 2011 was a great example.
If you look at recent games such as Chelsea, West Brom and Bournmouth, there's just no heart within the side, nobody pushing on and trying to get something in the game. I'm not blaming Allardyce for tonight's defeat, but I think Sean Dyche would of been a better appointment. Burnley fans regard him as a god, his players never stop playing for him and the club, if only our players could have the same commitment we could of won tonight. Sorry for the long post but the Everton I fell in love with seem to have died.

 

[orly]

£300m were do you get this figure from?

Since Martinez took over?

I mean just off top of the head:

Pickford £30m
Keane £30m
Klaassen £24m
Bolasie £28m
Sig £45m
Schneiderlin £24m
Williams £12m
Gueye £7m
Niasse £13m
Lukaku £28m

I mean that's £241m alone - not a net figure, but most of those are still here. And this side, and this management team, have contrived to produce this cacophony of crap. I've not even included the likes of Vlasic, Lookman, Besic etc etc

 

[St Domigos]

I agree, just remember the resilience of Moyes side we last went there in the FA cup. He certainly wasn't perfect but at least we had fight, we players like who actually cared about the fans. Wouldn't we love a player, who loved the club like Cahill or some of his other colleagues who realized playing for Everton mattered. When we could be awful 1 week and go out the next week and destroy Man City. There's just no character in that side, when it was 1-1 somebody should of been saying, lets keep this going or have a go at them. Bolaises shot at the end and Niasse smiling when we puts the ball out for a goal kick, hardly makes me feel like they care. Jags, Holgate, Sigs, Lookman and Rooney put work in but the rest were awful. I always felt even when we had lots of injuries or were playing poor under Moyes, that we would at least try our best. The Chelsea FA cup game in 2011 was a great example.
If you look at recent games such as Chelsea, West Brom and Bournmouth, there's just no heart within the side, nobody pushing on and trying to get something in the game. I'm not blaming Allardyce for tonight's defeat, but I think Sean Dyche would of been a better appointment. Burnley fans regard him as a god, his players never stop playing for him and the club, if only our players could have the same commitment we could of won tonight. Sorry for the long post but the Everton I fell in love with seem to have died.

Please go and fall in love with Man City..

Tonight we we're unlucky, dodgy pen and poor goalkeeper decision.Everyone tonight tried their hardest and if you can't see that then good riddance. Moyes never won away to a so called top 6 side. You're telling me Kenny, Rooney and Jags don't love Everton?

 

[Badge1878]

Tbf most of it isn't to do with them being better. We are massive bottlers of course and never play well, but I've been following Everton for 23 years and they've beaten us more times because of a dodgy decision than because they actually deserved it. That's the most frustrating and depressing thing for me. It's made me dislike football tbh.

I don't watch it anymore, it's all about cheats prospering but nothings ever done. I mean all pride has gone in football now, I suspect the kids are all seeing who can do the best dives these days as opposed to actually trying to beat each other.

We didn’t bottle tonight mate. We had a go. We celebrated the draw in December like it was a win - “got a point on a Sunday night & never had a shot” was our song as we walked back across the point.

Tonight. It wasn’t that. It wasn’t the Moyes save us for against sunderland in the Cup on Saturday - which we drew - it wasn’t the white flag the Spanish one humiliated us there with - it was a gutsy, committed away performance.

I’ve seen some horrible away performances, too many. Tonight wasn’t one. I get the cheat/dive point - it was criminal & embarrassing. Like you I’m used to it bad decisions against us - I pulled Clattenburg up on his abomination at Goodison at the Derby when I met him in Brum years later before he reffed us at Villa (we got beat again that day) - he couldn’t get away quick enough.

But, we’ve had a few go our way too over the years! I say nothing because deep down Bolton may think they beat us on that cold wet night on the Monday when a huge calmwent in our favour. We didn’t realise how much until the following May.

 

[St Domigos]

Since Martinez took over?

I mean just off top of the head:

Pickford £30m
Keane £30m
Klaassen £24m
Bolasie £28m
Sig £45m
Schneiderlin £24m
Williams £12m
Gueye £7m
Niasse £13m
Lukaku £28m

I mean that's £241m alone - not a net figure, but most of those are still here. And this side, and this management team, have contrived to produce this cacophony of crap. I've not even included the likes of Vlasic, Lookman, Besic etc etc

I think your head as fell off lad. Transfer pr

 

[toffeejack]

We didn’t bottle tonight mate. We had a go. We celebrated the draw in December like it was a win - “got a point on a Sunday night & never had a shot” was our song as we walked back across the point.

Tonight. It wasn’t that. It wasn’t the Moyes save us for against sunderland in the Cup on Saturday - which we drew - it wasn’t the white flag the Spanish one humiliated us there with - it was a gutsy, committed away performance.

I’ve seen some horrible away performances, too many. Tonight wasn’t one. I get the cheat/dive point - it was criminal & embarrassing. Like you I’m used to it bad decisions against us - I pulled Clattenburg up on his abomination at Goodison at the Derby when I met him in Brum years later before he reffed us at Villa (we got beat again that day) - he couldn’t get away quick enough.

But, we’ve had a few go our way too over the years! I say nothing because deep down Bolton may think they beat us on that cold wet night on the Monday when a huge calmwent in our favour. We didn’t realise how much until the following May.

Yeah, I didn't watch tonight, but I can tell from the reactions we didn't bottle that. In recent years we've been just as good a team as them and yet played like utter crap. We really do need to do something about it.

I can't handle it when we lose to them because of cheats like clattenburg, it's not what sport is about. It makes me depressed. I will never ever forget that. The guy is one of the biggest cowards in the world, of course he couldn't get away quick enough.

Fair point on Bolton, but one incident. The RS's history is littered of such decisions which has led to about 75%of the trophies they've won in my lifetime.

 

[TippEverton]

Respect to Sammy Lee tonight, though, for openly getting behind us in front of that lot.

Who actually cares though, give a fk that tw@t was cheering us on, clutching at straws looking for positives with that.

Wow, look at our assistant manager who we're paying thousands of pounds to cheering us on, oh such joy.

 

[orly]

Tosun rounds off the top 20

That is one terrible, terrible record. About 185 million euros on 'crap' or 'mega crap'.

 

[Badge1878]

Yeah, I didn't watch tonight, but I can tell from the reactions we didn't bottle that. In recent years we've been just as good a team as them and yet played like utter crap. We really do need to do something about it.

I can't handle it when we lose to them because of cheats like clattenburg, it's not what sport is about. It makes me depressed. I will never ever forget that. The guy is one of the biggest cowards in the world, of course he couldn't get away quick enough.

Fair point on Bolton, but one incident. The RS's history is littered of such decisions which has led to about 75%of the trophies they've won in my lifetime.

That shoot out against Cardiff was certainly a big one!!! Been a while, did they get a lucky call in that game too? Not sure if the last trophy they actually won in real time.

Let’s be fair, even the the biggest game in their history that still gets all them woolybacks & Scandi’s wet they drew 3all didn’t they?

It’s glory past mate. They were good before the backpass rule was invented. Struggled since. Not sure of a cup they have won in normal time since I was a lad. Some record in pens though haven’t they? Their success is built on it.

Keep the faith. I know where we are, so do you. As my grandad said, never talk Football with a Liverpool fan. They aren’t worth the effort.

 

[St Domigos]

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Tosun rounds off the top 20

That is one terrible, terrible record. About 185 million euros on 'crap' or 'mega crap'.

Fellaini ,Yakubu and Bilyaletdinov - Boss. HAHAHA hahahahaha pissed myself ya tool