I never said whether there was a point to it, or whether right or wrong. Just pointing out a flaw in your comment
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I never said whether there was a point to it, or whether right or wrong. Just pointing out a flaw in your comment
Ashtonian
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Incredible that we have Niasse at 50 grand a week still on the books because nobody wanted him.
If we sold him as soon as the window opened he will still cost the club a million pounds, and he isn't even in the squad ffs.
Amazing how nobody wanted him, not even hull!
neil999
Player Valuation: £80m
could we? how do you know bony didnt want guaranteed 1st team football, that we couldnt offer?
getting a back up striker was always gonna be a big problem joining a team that finished 11th with no european football to be a back-up, difficult one to sell
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I hope the heads keep exploding on here until the weekend. It'll give the mods a chance to pick off the would be dangers to women, who haven't left their bedrooms for six weeks and purge the forum of the FIFA obsessed mummy's boys who are currently polluting the forum.
TheHumbleEgg
Player Valuation: £15m
...which somehow, hopefully, gives a fine example in the difference in management ability & acumen between the then and now.
Astonishing that he's still here.
Sound...
So we've got a manager who has proved he is better than what we've had - urgo improvement?
I've said it so many times mate but IF THIS SQUAD WAS A MID-TABLE SQUAD - Martinez wouldn't have got sacked would he?
It's a top 8 squad. The deals we should have done this summer should have made us into a top 6 squad.
Ultimately that hasn't happened and we (the club) need to a) assess why, b) sort it and c) get any targets in in January - no excuses.
In the meantime, it's been our best start to a season in over a decade, the team looks sharper, fitter and more organised and the signings we have made have ALL improved the areas of the squad that they fill a role in.
We still have gaps and the fact that they (GK, AM/CM) haven't been addressed is poor, and I'm not shying away from that fact.
Anybody writing the season off due to a poor end to the window needs to give their head a wobble though.
I genuinely think we'll have done all we can - short of sacking him, which we can't really do - to get rid.
Nobody will want him.
Best we can hope for is an emergency loan to a lower league club.
Lennon and Oviedo are squad options - as are Cleverely and Gibson.
You can't sign a £30mil player when you've finished 11th for two seasons to be a squad option...
toffeejack
Player Valuation: £100m
we could have broken top 4 if we got in 3 or 4 more bodies in key areas. Our keeping and striking options are weak, it must be said.
All true, but I wasn't talking about that and never mentioned being happy or unhappy with it. I've other comments on that. More talking about what the expectations actually are from people making such comments. Because from many of the comments it seems the spending was not acceptable UNLESS it eclipses the Stones and TV money. Which would be a big ask, no? And perhaps not even necessary. Somebody else could maybe point out what the TV money is and advise a total of that and the Stones money.
Who is taking money out of where? That just sounds like a vague unsubstantiated moan to be honest.
Going back to your previous moan, are you saying we had to have spent more than the Stones and TV money for you to be happy?
not sure mate
Nil Satis Niasse Optimum
Player Valuation: £20m
Should hope somebody is willing to take Niasse on loan to pay at least something towards his wages, even like 30%. What a complete and utter leech he is. Literally everybody knew before we even signed him he'd be a disaster. I guess sometimes fans really do know better.
Ballymoney1
Player Valuation: £950k
A depressing deadline day no doubt we need to take a look at the way in which we conduct our business in the future. If you tell the media the morning of deadline day that you are desperate to get 4 new signings in before 11pm then you are leaving yourself wide open to be exploited by agents and selling clubs. This was shown as we were strung along to the max by Sissoko and his representatives as well as Newcastle United who have managed to bag 30mil for a player has been pretty [Poor language removed] for the majority of games he has played for them. They get 30mil, the player and his agent a bumper pay day and we get to look like a laughing stock.
Hopefully we have now learned that it pays to get your business done early even if you have to pay slightly over the odds. The board should have funds available in January so we need to see an improvement on how we have gone about business. In fairness to the board they are prepared to part with their cash and pay todays inflated prices for players so things could be worse. Better to be able to compete in the market rather than scraping around looking for a loan signing here and there cos we were skint as we had become the norm only a season or two ago.
Hopefully we have now learned that it pays to get your business done early even if you have to pay slightly over the odds. The board should have funds available in January so we need to see an improvement on how we have gone about business. In fairness to the board they are prepared to part with their cash and pay todays inflated prices for players so things could be worse. Better to be able to compete in the market rather than scraping around looking for a loan signing here and there cos we were skint as we had become the norm only a season or two ago.
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