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Everton Transfer Thread - Summer 2020

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Zatara said:
I think the way to calculate this is a bit differently.

If Bale + James are on £600k and £300k a week = £900k.

Real just want them off the books so zero transfer fee.

Instead of say a £60mil transfer fee, it would equal £385k a week over 3 years.

Thats already £192,500 each in salary over 3 years.

I think we could put those amounts into performance payments and then pay £100k a week for James and £200k a week for Bale in wages.

That would cover both of them for: £60mil + £300k a week in wages.

The one thing for me would be where Bale and James would play. Would Bale go back to his olf left sided position with James on the right?

Not sure how James would do in the prem in a 442 centrally...
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Time to get some top quality in.

Lets hope Ancelotti gets to recruit the players - Brands has let himself down with signing a ton of players inconsistent or not good enough

Not good enough

Iwobi
Delph
Sidibe
Lossl
Kean

Ok but very Inconsistent

Bernard
Gomes
Mina

Give the dough to Carlo!
 
catcherintherye said:
I think is situations like this, contracts start to become very shaky. I saw yesterday the US government have essentially taken a bunch of equipment contractually owned by Germany, but are not going to give it back. Contracts become very weakened in these situations.

Aside from that, contracts will be getting breached.I find it hard to believe we fulfil the TV schedule in the manner we are supposed too. Best case scenario I see is we write off 1/4 of this season and have to give that money back. Worst case it may be deemed we've invalidated the whole season.

As regards match day revenue, again assuming these games can't be played again it's around 20% that has been lost. Maybe more for teams still in Europe. Sponsorship too. Liverpool (for example) have highly incentivised targets to hit to acquire most of the funding (and indeed most deals have this in, albeit not as sharply as Liverpool). This targets won't be hit. Sports manufacturers will certainly be looking at options to either reduce, or get out of contracts, as will sponsors. The situation within business the moment is very bleak,and cut backs will have to be made. I haven't gone for the catastrophic position, but it's hard not to see a decline in revenues.

As for players, well there are a number of reasons. Firstly it seems the right thing to do. Secondly for the long term viability in the game, a reduction in wage costs in the short term may prevent a more severe crisis in the medium term. a 30% cut now, may stabilise the game, and allow it to slowly recover. A refusal to cut wages now, and clubs start going out of business, meaning it may be a more brutal cut.

In essence though, even if there aren't an official cut in wages, if we are willing to pay a substantial wage, in a deflationary market we will be competitive. I mean we are used to Real Madrid being all powerful, but their great Spanish rival have just had to agree a 70% cut with their players, probably to stay functional. They will be negotiating from a weak position. I think an offer that is close to 50% of their current terms will be looked at, in each case. I'm not basing it on much more than a gut feeling.

The question is, would Bale at say 250kpw, James at say £125k p/w or Ramsey at say £180k pw (all about half the figures, and bear in mind Ramsey has just agreed 4 months without pay) be a prudent investment on a short term basis? With a manager like Ancelotti, I'm inclined to think yes.

I also think, Koulibaly could be in play, they seem desperate to sell, and desperate to sell in a deflationary market tends to mean 1 thing.
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I think we are in a good position with a lot of deadwoods contracts up within 2 seasons, other clubs im not sure about.

Also looking from an economic perspective this situation wont last long. My prediction would be until October with things rocketing up after that.

Europe may take a bit longer but hedging risk should mitigate alot of damage caused.

My guess would be 2 players like the ones mentioned (i think James is a goer) with the rest being Gabriel types as Ancelotti builds a young team with a couple of superstar older heads.


ForeverBlue92 said:
Time to get some top quality in.

Lets hope Ancelotti gets to recruit the players - Brands has let himself down with signing a ton of players inconsistent or not good enough

Not good enough

Iwobi
Delph
Sidibe
Lossl
Kean

Ok but very Inconsistent

Bernard
Gomes
Mina

Give the dough to Carlo!
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I just cant take anyone who calls Kean "not good enough" and Mina "inconsistent" seriously...
 
Zatara said:
I think we are in a good position with a lot of deadwoods contracts up within 2 seasons, other clubs im not sure about.

Also looking from an economic perspective this situation wont last long. My prediction would be until October with things rocketing up after that.

Europe may take a bit longer but hedging risk should mitigate alot of damage caused.

My guess would be 2 players like the ones mentioned (i think James is a goer) with the rest being Gabriel types as Ancelotti builds a young team with a couple of superstar older heads.




I just cant take anyone who calls Kean "not good enough" and Mina "inconsistent" seriously...
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Keans just not suited to the Prem mate - he aint some academy kid he's scored goals at elite level for Juventus and the senior Italian National side - he'll be back in Italy in 18 months vault me on that.

Mina on his day can be very good but he is also prone to being caught out of position, clumsy and wastes so many chances from corners. He's not on the same level as say when we had Jags, Lescott & Distin in their prime.

Holgate & a top CB should be our main pairing next season imo.
 

Stephenlloyd said:
Ancelotti will have, I’d imagine an input into the transfers. Or what was the point in appointing him and paying him a big salary. And I’d think he will want one or two of his players.

This may have been agreed when he took the job, as I read an article by an Italian journalist, who said Ancelotti will insist on getting a player or two he wants when agreeing to take a job.

Yes in theory brands buys all young players and the coach, does his job. But it looks like Moshiri has slightly gone away from that by appointing Ancelotti. I think Ancelotti came on the market and Moshiri thought it was to good an opportunity to turn down, maybe he feels we need to push on and try and get champions league football as we move towards the new ground.

Brands is probably here for the long haul and will still buy a lot of young players, but maybe going slightly off track for a few years to support a world class manager, is not a bad think imo.
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I think he will have the last word on any of them.
 
ForeverBlue92 said:
Time to get some top quality in.

Lets hope Ancelotti gets to recruit the players - Brands has let himself down with signing a ton of players inconsistent or not good enough

Not good enough

Iwobi
Delph
Sidibe
Lossl
Kean

Ok but very Inconsistent

Bernard
Gomes
Mina

Give the dough to Carlo!
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Iwobi I thought would have done better this season, but he’s still young and has time to improve.
Delph was a experienced squad filler for a cheap fee.
Sidibe was a loan
Loss on a free
And Kean is 19, I’m sure half a dozen Italian clubs would give us our money back tomorrow to take him back to Italy

Bernard was a free and we will make money on him
Gomes for 22 mil was a bargain
And Mina, is still young for a CB, with figures getting banded around for the like of Ake 60mil, Tarkowski 40mil. Dunk 40mil
Paying what was it 28? For Mina is still a good deal
 

rochdaleblue said:
Not only on transfers mate, but also on players salary demands.
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Yes, not only financial pressure on clubs to lower wages but I suspect there will be a clamour for players to take pay cuts given the economic and social pain that is going to be felt across all of society.
 
orly said:
I agree with you there mate
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I feel guilty saying it. But if we aren’t ruthless we will never challenge the top teams. Youngsters will now probably get a season to breakthrough. Unless they play a few games at a really young age and then go on loan.

But if you haven’t really stamped your mark on the team by 21/22, you’re going to struggle to stay at the club.
 

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