Everton Transfer Thread - Summer 2020

[FTY]

Loving these Onguene links

Never seen him kick a football but he was world class for me on my Brentford save on FM20

 

[Stephenlloyd]

Godfrey is whatever we should be signing Buendia. I can't believe he's about to go to Turkey.

Don’t need another small tricky player that doesn’t score goals

 

[TheBigIguana]

Don’t need another small tricky player that doesn’t score goals

Well we could use one that is actually creative. It's maybe not a need but you always need good players.

 

[JLW]

Zaha would 100% be first choice for us, its madness to suggest he wouldnt.

This is happening, (without me having a clue what’s going on) I guess we are waiting until very late in the window to get the price we want. Palace have a player who doesn’t want to be there. I guess Bolasie would go the other way as part of the deal.

 

[Tramps_mate]

I like how you stick to your guns even while shooting them into your feet.

What a phrase. I'm stealing that one..

 

[Ring master]

This is happening, (without me having a clue what’s going on) I guess we are waiting until very late in the window to get the price we want. Palace have a player who doesn’t want to be there. I guess Bolasie would go the other way as part of the deal.

Does not mention us in the headline but says we are interested but timing is wrong, whatever he bases all this on-if true or not

 

[Nymzee]

Zaha has blown his chance and will retire at Palace.

 

[ToffeeTim]

Does not mention us in the headline but says we are interested but timing is wrong, whatever he bases all this on-if true or not

Zaha back to United looks like very lazy journalism to me. Not even convinced he'd want to go back!

 

[Hellerad]

Man U are perfectly set up for some panic buys

 

[Stephenlloyd]

Zaha back to United looks like very lazy journalism to me. Not even convinced he'd want to go back!

Seems a strange link to me, United seem to getting linked with wide Right players, not sure Zaha is suited to that side.

And they have martial and Rashford who can play the left side.

Atletico, who knows but again I don’t think they are flush with money

 

[Kever10]

Your Gana hatred is ridiculous. I think Allan definitely has more to his game than Gana and Doucoure has a wider range of talents than Gana but the jury's still out on whether he will be a better player for us. Even taking this into account Gueye would still be in our top 3 or 4 centre mids (depending on what you think Rodriguez's main position is) if he joined today.

I have grown to really like Keane, but Gueye was a far more consistent performer for us than Keane has been. Hopefully Keane can continue this form and change this fact, but to put it bluntly Gueye is not rubbish.

Idrissa Gueye must be 1 of the most overrated players i have seen play for Everton. Even now, I'm constantly hearing or reading how amazing he was, and to a man, they always back it up with his stats, and often, it includes his stats for a Villa team that was relegated as one of the worst teams in the PŁ history.

Everyone knows he ran a lot, and he made lots of interceptions and covered loads of ground, etc, all things Opta told us were above average.

Well James Rodriguez completed a game against West Brom with zero Sprints. ZERO. If this stat, on its own, does not instantly end this obsession with these type of numbers, there is nothing down for us.

I watched Gueye from my seat in the Top Balcony for the 3 years he was here, and we were awful for nearly the entire time. He didn't improve the side in any meaningful way, and in fact, the teams 2 best spells of his time here, where 1) when he was in Africa in the 2nd half of Koemans 1st season, and 2) the 2nd half of Silvas 1st season, when he was playing for his dream move to Paris. And fair play to him for being professional and getting on with the job. I expected no less from him, he always gave his all.

But he was not some game changing player that would walk into any side. He was part of the problem midfield that saw us fail to complete and essentially roll over to any side that pressed us. And yes, it was also the other players fault as well. But it was also his. He was there, he was part of the unit, he doesn't get a pass while all 10 (maybe more, i lose count) of his other midfield partners take the slack.

He had a lot of qualities, most of which can scarcely be noticed by simply watching a game. But he also had many flaws, most of which can.

He regularly lost possession, in dangerous places as well i might add. He often kept hold of the ball too long. His passing, contrary to some on here, was average at best. He would occasionally knock a lovely 30 yard cross field pass, only to make a meal of a simple 5 yard one under no pressure. His positioning and discipline were non existent, and he often left humongous gaps in behind which severely exposed a fragile defense. He was often bypassed almost laughably. Have a look at the number of long range goals we conceded while he was in the side, and play a game of "Where's Gana" on the screen as the player is about to shoot. This idea that he was some defensive powerhouse who shielded out back 4 is an absolute myth brought by people who care more for how many places he cropped up in to lunge into another challenge. I won't even mention his shooting.

That he has the reputation in the 1st place is testament to the power of social media opinion and the prevailance of meaningless stats (I say meaningless, as some can obviously be useful).

The fact he still has it, when you realise the difference that Allan and James have made in less than a month of actually signing, with no preseason or prep. Christ, even Gareth Barry and James McCarthy had a bigger positive impact on a team than he did, but neither of them are talked about in the same obsessive fashion.

Gueye was an average, workhorse, midfielder, whose work rate and commitment were admirable, and should be the very least u expect from a midfield player.

But he was not world class, in any sense of the word. Nor was he the transformative midfield dynamo he has been retroactively made out to be.

1 final point. I am arguably 1 of Sigurdssons biggest critics, have been since we signed him. And I regularly said that any midfield with him and Gueye in it, would never succeed. Mostly because 1 had no interest in moving, and the other had no interest in staying still.

Well, even I must admit, that this season, with the players who are there, there has been an improvement in even Gylfi the Ghosts performances.

That is what really good players do. They make the players around them look better.

Idrissa Gueye never did that. Not once.

 

[windymiller]

At skate boarding ?

At dressing like Dillon from the magic roundabout.

 

[The Binman]

Man U are perfectly set up for some panic buys

Everton 2- 3 years ago!!

 

[Jayhow15]

Idrissa Gueye must be 1 of the most overrated players i have seen play for Everton. Even now, I'm constantly hearing or reading how amazing he was, and to a man, they always back it up with his stats, and often, it includes his stats for a Villa team that was relegated as one of the worst teams in the PŁ history.

Everyone knows he ran a lot, and he made lots of interceptions and covered loads of ground, etc, all things Opta told us were above average.

Well James Rodriguez completed a game against West Brom with zero Sprints. ZERO. If this start, on its own, does not instantly end this obsession with these type of numbers, there is nothing down for us.

I watched Gueye from my seat in the Top Balcony for the 3 years he was here, and we were awful for nearly the entire time. He didn't improve the side in any meaningful way, and in fact, the teams 2 best spells of his time here, where 1) when he was in Africa in the 2nd half of Koemnas 1st season, and 2) the 2nd half of Silvas 1st season, when he was playing for his dream move to Paris. And fair play to him for being professional and getting on with the job. I expected no less from him, he always gave his all.

But he was not some game changing player that would walk into any side. He was part of the problem midfield that saw us fail to complete and essentially roll over to any side that pressed us. And yes, it was also the other players fault as well. But it was also his. He was there, he was part of the unit, he doesn't get a pass while all 10 (maybe more, i lose count) of his other midfield partners take the slack.

He had a lot of qualities, most of which can scarcely be noticed by simply watching a game. But he also had many flaws, most of which can.

He regularly lost possession, in dangerous places as well i might add. He often kept hold of the ball too long. His passing, contrary to some on here, was average at best. He would occasionally knock a lovely 30 yard cross field pass, only to make a meal of a simple 5 yard one under no pressure. His positioning and discipline were non existent, and he often left humongous gaps in behind which severely exposed a fragile defense. He was often bypassed almost laughably. Have a look at the number of long range goals we conceded while he was in the side, and play a game of "Where's Gana" on the screen as the player is about to shoot. This idea that he was some defensive powerhouse who shielded out back 4 is an absolute myth brought by people who care more for how many places he cropped up in to lunge into another challenge. I won't even mention his shooting.

That he has the reputation in the 1st place is testament to the power of social media opinion and the prevailance of meaningless stats (I say meaningless, as some can obviously be useful).

The fact he still has it, when you realise the difference that Allan and James have made in less than a month of actually signing, with no preseason or prep. Christ, even Gareth Barry and James McCarthy had a bigger positive impact on a team than he did, but neither of them are talked about in the same obsessive fashion.

Gueye was an average, workhorse, midfielder, whose work rate and commitment were admirable, and should be the very least u expect from a midfield player.

But he was not world class, in any sense of the word. Nor was he the transformative midfield dynamo he has been retroactively made out to be.

1 final point. I am arguably 1 of Sigurdssons biggest critics, have been since we signed him. And I regularly said that any midfield with him and Gueye in it, would never succeed. Mostly because 1 had no interest in moving, and the other had no interest in staying still.

Well, even I must admit, that this season, with the players who are there, there has been an improvement in even Gylfi the Ghosts performances.

That is what really good players do. They make the players around them look better.

Idrissa Gueye never did that. Not once.

My God. You've put everything in to that. Shame it's both way too long and way too long.

We missed Gana last season. That's a fact and it's short.

 

[Lelouch]

My God. You've put everything in to that. Shame it's both way too long and way too long.

We missed Gana last season. That's a fact and it's short.

We missed a Gana type player, Not Gana himself.