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Match Thread Everton v Atalanta BC

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Something is deeply wrong. Unsworth is a bit tactically lacking but there's something not right when senior pros and experienced internationals turn in that showing.

Is the squad split? Has Unsworth alienated the Koeman signings / loyalists? Questions I can't answer but it didn't look a unified or proud team at all last night.

I don't think it's split mate.

I appears that some of the senior players aren't arsed one bit - Unsworth finally seemed to admit this last night in his post match interview.

Some of the first team squad simply aren't Premier league standard.

The kids have been thrown into an absolute mess of a team and have had too much expectation placed on them as a result. It's not doing them any good as a result.

Whichever way you look at it or dress it up, this is gross mismanagement on a grand scale.

The way I'm looking at this, is that whoever comes in is going to have to be given the green light to rip this shambles of a squad up, a shed load of money and almost start again from scratch.
 
I don't think it's split mate.

I appears that some of the senior players aren't arsed one bit - Unsworth finally seemed to admit this last night in his post match interview.

Some of the first team squad simply aren't Premier league standard.

The kids have been thrown into an absolute mess of a team and have had too much expectation placed on them as a result. It's not doing them any good as a result.

Whichever way you look at it or dress it up, this is gross mismanagement on a grand scale.

The way I'm looking at this, is that whoever comes in is going to have to be given the green light to rip this shambles of a squad up, a shed load of money and almost start again from scratch.

This is what it must feel like to be a Sunderland fan.
 
We need another 4 points at the very least from the Southampton and West Ham games. Southampton have got ok players but can't score goals and West Ham are just diabolical. If I could hand pick two sides in the premier league for us to play right now it would be these two.

Then again I'm sure if you asked Soton and Hammers fans who they'd like to play next it would unanimously be us.
 

We need another 4 points at the very least from the Southampton and West Ham games. Southampton have got ok players but can't score goals and West Ham are just diabolical. If I could hand pick two sides in the premier league for us to play right now it would be these two.

Then again I'm sure if you asked Soton and Hammers fans who they'd like to play next it would unanimously be us.

Lots of Saints fans here in sunny Dorset, they're all pretty sure a point on Sunday will be a plus for them. Like many other team's fans they rate the players at Everton, but not the team.

I've got a ticket with my Bournemouth supporting mate in the home seats (yes, it's complicated) so should be an interesting experience. Practicing my poker face.
 
Lots of Saints fans here in sunny Dorset, they're all pretty sure a point on Sunday will be a plus for them. Like many other team's fans they rate the players at Everton, but not the team.

I've got a ticket with my Bournemouth supporting mate in the home seats (yes, it's complicated) so should be an interesting experience. Practicing my poker face.
you won't need a poker face, watching everton ATM you will have the look of reignation from minute 1
 
Those useless cowardly scumbags! I didn't think it was possible but they managed it. I was completely unarsed about last night's game and would of just shrugged off a 2-0 or 3-1 defeat but the manner of this was so shambolic and spineless that I'm absolutely fuming. Rhino needs to go now, he's a sound guy and will always be one of us but he's tactically clueless. The bulk of these players completely disgust me, I hate the majority of them.

What was the F'N pooint in sacking Koeman if you don't have a plan in place You simpletons?! It's clear that Billy Liars melodrama has finally caught up with him and us. After years of treading water he's finally done it and ruined the club to the point were relegation is not only a strong possibility but extremely likely. Make no mistake, unless major changes are made VERY soon with a manager who knows what he's doing and major investment made in Jan then this time next year will be playing in the championship. We are extremely fortunate that this league is so embarrassingly poor and there is only in fact 6 points between us and 8th because make no mistake right now we are THE worst team in the league. Let's just get this season out the way, hope to God we stay up then take a sledgehammer to this side (I mean figuratively but if sombody literally did it then I for one wouldn't shed any tears!).

Ringing changes are needed at this club from the board to the players on the pitch because right now the club is dying. It's been Ill for over two decades now and we all deluded ourselves into thinking that it was temporary. Well it wasn't. Moyes might of successfully got us on life support but it's not working anymore. We need to fix this now, or this time next season we will be paying in the championship and with the losers mentality that infeists this club I'd not be surprised to see us plummet further down. I just feel broken right now.:(
Can we email this post to the club please? Add my signature to the bottom because it sums up my feelings exactly.
 

I was thinking the exact same thing earlier. Was this what it was like before they knew they were going down?

Quite possibly.

However, and maybe I'm overly optimistic, Sunderland were in decline for years. They got to a point where they signed a defeatist manager and didn't fund him very well. We at least have time to make the right appointment and bring in much needed reinforcements in January. Neither are straightforward and given the recent past nothing can be taken for granted. But the scope for improvement is there.

We'll find out soon enough!
 

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