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Match Thread Everton v Crystal Palace - Match Report and MotM Poll

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Dreadful bad. Can’t squander chance after chance like that. Sick of these performances. Smacks of complacency. Surely you become a professional athlete because you’re quite keen to win?

With the amount money that’s involved in the game I think you’ll seldom find many winners in the game these days. Once kids get through the academy stage they’re treated like royalty and given the world at their feet, what else do they have to do to feel successful. Sad state really.
 
Again I’m not sure what his reasoning or plans were. Perhaps Gomes going off early on in the game was also a spanner in his works? He could have planned on putting Sigurdsson on later on for James? I don’t know.

Yep, true. I know, I do see the caveats, but he's a manager paid a lot of money to get us beating these sides mate.

Not doing so will mean our great results against the likes of Chelsea, Liverpool, Spurs etc this season will ultimately prove fruitless.

Also aware that DCL and Richarlison cost us today.
 

He's paid £9m a year mate. It's his job to make those calls and get them right.

He's got a lot wrong lately.

Its not his fault our 2 forwards missed at least 4 clear cut chances. Its not his fault that Godfrey was nowhere near in position to defend a simple channel ball for their equaliser. Its not his fault that our midfielders can't stay fit for 2 games in a row. Its not his fault that the squad is full of deadwood from previous managers. Its not his fault that the DOF hasn't signed a right back in 3 years. Its not his fault that this whole club is steeped in a losing mentality. Its not his fault that this club was allowed to become an irrelevance over the last 25 years.

This club needs enormous improvements in so many areas. Only over a longer period can any manager try to resolve the problems. If we look at it today, there are individual errors galore. If players can't take simple chances at this level then we will have problems. To have that many 1 v 1s and no score is criminal and the players involved should take full responsibility and make sure they are better next week.

The frustration is that this season was a huge chance to propel ourselves forward and accelerate our progression. We've managed to blow the opportunity with some utterly woeful home results. The players need to have a look at themselves and ask why they failed to perform so many times. Next year is now going to be an extremely hard year and we need to be ruthless with our squad. If they haven't performed they need to be replaced. There needs to be zero room for sentimentality and zero room for performances like Newcastle or Fulham. You can lose games of course but those two stand out as truly unacceptable performances.
 
Its not his fault our 2 forwards missed at least 4 clear cut chances. Its not his fault that Godfrey was nowhere near in position to defend a simple channel ball for their equaliser. Its not his fault that our midfielders can't stay fit for 2 games in a row. Its not his fault that the squad is full of deadwood from previous managers. Its not his fault that the DOF hasn't signed a right back in 3 years. Its not his fault that this whole club is steeped in a losing mentality. Its not his fault that this club was allowed to become an irrelevance over the last 25 years.

This club needs enormous improvements in so many areas. Only over a longer period can any manager try to resolve the problems. If we look at it today, there are individual errors galore. If players can't take simple chances at this level then we will have problems. To have that many 1 v 1s and no score is criminal and the players involved should take full responsibility and make sure they are better next week.

The frustration is that this season was a huge chance to propel ourselves forward and accelerate our progression. We've managed to blow the opportunity with some utterly woeful home results. The players need to have a look at themselves and ask why they failed to perform so many times. Next year is now going to be an extremely hard year and we need to be ruthless with our squad. If they haven't performed they need to be replaced. There needs to be zero room for sentimentality and zero room for performances like Newcastle or Fulham. You can lose games of course but those two stand out as truly unacceptable performances.

Mate, any other manager gets the results we have at home, playing the way we have in those games, and there'd be outcry.

Have to get away from just blaming the players or just blaming the manager. They're all at fault, and Brands.

We set up 5-4-1 for the last 15 at home to Palace mate. That's on Carlo.

But, we should have put our chances away, I know that.
 
You can only laugh at that today, absolute rubbish, should of scored 3 maybe 4 goals, very very poor opposition this evening also it must be said, difficult to accept their goal came from a sequence down our right that they came close with a good few times prior, also totally beyond me why we have such a bad run of home form.. Pains me to say this but I see why the bookies had us 13/1 for a top four finish pre game, hopefully we can secure Europa league qualification, although seemingly progress, its not without its bear traps - top 4 really has been ours to throw away this year sadly. Can't pin it all on either the manager or the players, I do however pin a large portion of today's type of result on the owners/directors of the last 10 years who have created an environment through their own incompetence where this performance flies with regularity without consequence imo, bloody long way to go yet...
 
Its not his fault our 2 forwards missed at least 4 clear cut chances. Its not his fault that Godfrey was nowhere near in position to defend a simple channel ball for their equaliser. Its not his fault that our midfielders can't stay fit for 2 games in a row. Its not his fault that the squad is full of deadwood from previous managers. Its not his fault that the DOF hasn't signed a right back in 3 years. Its not his fault that this whole club is steeped in a losing mentality. Its not his fault that this club was allowed to become an irrelevance over the last 25 years.

This club needs enormous improvements in so many areas. Only over a longer period can any manager try to resolve the problems. If we look at it today, there are individual errors galore. If players can't take simple chances at this level then we will have problems. To have that many 1 v 1s and no score is criminal and the players involved should take full responsibility and make sure they are better next week.

The frustration is that this season was a huge chance to propel ourselves forward and accelerate our progression. We've managed to blow the opportunity with some utterly woeful home results. The players need to have a look at themselves and ask why they failed to perform so many times. Next year is now going to be an extremely hard year and we need to be ruthless with our squad. If they haven't performed they need to be replaced. There needs to be zero room for sentimentality and zero room for performances like Newcastle or Fulham. You can lose games of course but those two stand out as truly unacceptable performances.

I agree with a lot of what you say and there are certainly many things beyond Carlo’s control, but I’d be interested to understand what, if anything, you would be critical of him for?

After all, he’s 18 months into a job. He took over a team that had finished 7th, 8th and 8th in the 3 seasons prior. A squad that, although disjointed, had certainly received heavy investment and lots of potential. Most would forgive him the 12th place finish last year, he’s had another £60 odd million to play with this year and many had expectations of a top six / seven finish.

That still isn’t impossible, or even unlikely but I agree with a lot of what you say and it would be interesting if you feel the manager has got it wrong too?
 

Mate, any other manager gets the results we have at home, playing the way we have in those games, and there'd be outcry.

Have to get away from just blaming the players or just blaming the manager. They're all at fault, and Brands.

We set up 5-4-1 for the last 15 at home to Palace mate. That's on Carlo.

But, we should have put our chances away, I know that.

We cant keep blaming managers while we see so many errors by players. If Ancelotti can't fix us then we are finished as a club.

I didnt like the Coleman sub at all, but Godfrey could have played much better too. He's capable of far better than he produced.

I saw good players make big errors in front of goal and in defence. Richarlison and Dom need to be better than that and they will know that. Godfrey needs to just drop off into our shape but for some reason pushed out of defence.

These are good players. Why are they making such basic errors. At some point we need to stop making excuses for constant mistakes.

The thing that summed us up today was when Richarlisons shot was saved in the 89th minute and came out to the 6 yard line for a possible tap in rebound. Did anyone bust a gut and gamble...... no.

We need to want it more than we do. Ashley Cole hit the nail on the head the other week. We dont play like a team who really want to move up the ladder.
 
We cant keep blaming managers while we see so many errors by players. If Ancelotti can't fix us then we are finished as a club.

I didnt like the Coleman sub at all, but Godfrey could have played much better too. He's capable of far better than he produced.

I saw good players make big errors in front of goal and in defence. Richarlison and Dom need to be better than that and they will know that. Godfrey needs to just drop off into our shape but for some reason pushed out of defence.

These are good players. Why are they making such basic errors. At some point we need to stop making excuses for constant mistakes.

The thing that summed us up today was when Richarlisons shot was saved in the 89th minute and came out to the 6 yard line for a possible tap in rebound. Did anyone bust a gut and gamble...... no.

We need to want it more than we do. Ashley Cole hit the nail on the head the other week. We dont play like a team who really want to move up the ladder.
But the squad keeps getting changed and changed.

I'm sorry mate, I'm not having that carlo is blameless. He's making mistakes, bad ones. Needs to do better. Just like DCL and Richarlison need to go and score those chances.

Why do we have no way of attacking if James isn't playing? Why is he thinking it's sensible to put Keane man-marking Zaha? Why is he putting five at the back and 4 in midfield with loads of players out of position at home to Palace? Why do we have absolutely no ability to hold onto the ball? Why can't we play through midfield?

I know we need better players. But Carlo is at fault too.
 
One win in the last seven home league games,means we are not good enough, most of those games have been against mediocre teams, we have a poor squad, can’t be denied, but Carlo gets a lot of points away from home, why does he seem to manage so poorly at home, with mainly the same players?
He doesn't trust them seems to be the only explanation for the negative tactics also as I said the players are bottlers when the pressure is on we never step up. We never take the opportunity to push on.
 
Nonsense.

He may not good at finishing but to question his effort...
Have to agree with @ToffeeTim here....and I hate to think it but I definitely see a drop off in work rate from DCL since he’s become lauded as our ‘main man’ and ‘Harry Kane back-up’ for the National side. Seems like he’s fully believing the hype and considering he’s made it.
Not saying he’s a bad player at all but I do doubt that he’s working as hard as he was 6 months ago.
 
If you thought that performance was good your standards must have dropped depressingly low. It was dire, drab, littered with mistakes and all told a very, very forgettable night (again) at Goodison.
We created more than enough chances to win and mostly from open play. We haven't done that in beards so maybe the standards are a bit down but from that standpoint it was pretty close to what we need.
 

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