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so i just started playing rugby this year, before i started playing i knew [Poor language removed] all about the sport, and i still know next to nothing.

anyways, i want to start supporting a professional rugby club because that always makes it easier to get into a professional sport, what rugby team do people on here support?
 
Nah, they're just the teams I've gravitated towards. Liverpool doesn't have a top flight union team as the north is really League territory. Orrel is the nearest union club of any note.

In League St Helens is probably the closest club to Liverpool and I believe a few people on here support them. As mentioned, in the north of England League is more common than Union. It's played in the summer as well so you can pick a team and follow them through the season from the start in Feb/March. Saints are probably the best team at the moment, although Leeds won the title last year.

As for the differences between League and Union. The obvious one is that League has 13 players, Union 15 (Union has 2 locks, primarily used in the lineout - League doesn't have lineouts so therefore doesn't need the locks).

The main difference though is in the tackle area. In League each team has 6 tackles in posession, so the tackle area is uncontested. In Union teams can have as many tackles as they want, but the tackle area is contested, either in mauls (when the players are tackled on their feet), or rucks (when they players are tackled on the floor).

Union also tends to place greater emphasis on set pieces, such as scrums and lineouts. This results in a more prominent kicking game and a higher penalty count. In League there are no lineouts and scrums are uncontested (ie merely a means of restarting the game) so greater emphasis is placed on scoring tries.

That's the main differences. Where they become similar is in the best teams dominating the tackle area. In League for instance St Helens have become expert at securing a quick play of the ball (ie the time between the player being tackled, getting to his feet and starting again). This then allows the next wave of attack to be made against a defensive line that has less time to align itself.

Likewise in Union New Zealand are the masters at securing quick ball. As soon as the player is tackled, the opponent is cleared from the ruck very quickly, allowing the scrum half to get the next wave of attack going very quickly.

Of course the flip side of this is that when defending if you can slow the play of the ball down it helps you tremendously. Again New Zealand are very good at this, with their captain Richie McCaw the best in the world. In League you'll see tacklers turning players onto their backs to make it harder for them to regain their feet, and you often see penalties awarded for holding the player down for too long.

That about sums it up I think. The games are generally cheaper to go to than football matches so pop along, see what you think.
 
Bath Rugby (union) for me.

Got friends down there who support them hence my allegience. Been to see them play quite a few times now including a Powergen Cup final at Twickers. It's all good fun but not a patch on the footy (y)
 

Nah, they're just the teams I've gravitated towards. Liverpool doesn't have a top flight union team as the north is really League territory. Orrel is the nearest union club of any note.

In League St Helens is probably the closest club to Liverpool and I believe a few people on here support them. As mentioned, in the north of England League is more common than Union. It's played in the summer as well so you can pick a team and follow them through the season from the start in Feb/March. Saints are probably the best team at the moment, although Leeds won the title last year.

As for the differences between League and Union. The obvious one is that League has 13 players, Union 15 (Union has 2 locks, primarily used in the lineout - League doesn't have lineouts so therefore doesn't need the locks).

The main difference though is in the tackle area. In League each team has 6 tackles in posession, so the tackle area is uncontested. In Union teams can have as many tackles as they want, but the tackle area is contested, either in mauls (when the players are tackled on their feet), or rucks (when they players are tackled on the floor).

Union also tends to place greater emphasis on set pieces, such as scrums and lineouts. This results in a more prominent kicking game and a higher penalty count. In League there are no lineouts and scrums are uncontested (ie merely a means of restarting the game) so greater emphasis is placed on scoring tries.

That's the main differences. Where they become similar is in the best teams dominating the tsecuring a quick play of the ball (ie the time between the player being tackled, getting to his feet and starting again). This then allows the next wave of attack to be madeackle area. In League for instance St Helens have become expert at against a defensive line that has less time to align itself.

Likewise in Union New Zealand are the masters at securing quick ball. As soon as the player is tackled, the opponent is cleared from the ruck very quickly, allowing the scrum half to get the next wave of attack going very quickly.

Of course the flip side of this is that when defending if you can slow the play of the ball down it helps you tremendously. Again New Zealand are very good at this, with their captain Richie McCaw the best in the world. In League you'll see tacklers turning players onto their backs to make it harder for them to regain their feet, and you often see penalties awarded for holding the player down for too long.

That about sums it up I think. The games are generally cheaper to go to than football matches so pop along, see what you think.

great thanks for the help bruce. i didn't know it before but apparently what i've been playing is rugby union. uncontested scrums sound absurd, having learned the game with regular scrums i simply couldn't imagine it.

i'll probably see what some of my rugby buddies think and hopefully we can all settle on one team to support.

are rugby fans generally as passionate as footy fans? or is it more of a secondary sport to most?
 
Depends really. In Wigan for instance I dare say that most locals are rugby fans rather than Latics fans. Likewise I think most Rah Rah fans follow rugby rather than football, but Union has a history of being a public school sport so there is a class element to that I think.

As for scrums, for me the point of rugby is scoring tries and you get much more running rugby in League. The new rules in Union have tried to make it a much more running game, and to be fair the way NZ play is fantastic to watch as they play a more League style game. Northern hemisphere sides, especially England and Ireland, traditionally play a forward game and use set pieces to win rather than running rugby in the backs. Wales though play a good game but I suspect Sean Edwards (League legend) has a big say in that being their coach.
 
I'm not a big fan but would say that I kinda support St. Helens. But they are a league side. As far as union goes, I don't really feel an affinity with any club. In fact, I don't like union at all, which is probably down to old class prejudices that I still carry around with me :lol:
 
league ......st.helens, with affection for leigh, i'll also get behind anyone thats opposing wigan.

union......a team far away from home The Canterbury Crusaders from Christchurch N.Z. who pay in the super 14 southern hemisphere competition.
 

St Helens for me everytime. I enjoy Rugby League and intend to make it my business to attend a game some day soon. I am with Nebbiolo in as much to say that i dont like Union at all, it's to stop start for me and complicated, especially the offside ruling, and I thought football was complicated enough.
 
League - Wigan, sorry Reidy.

Union - Only the national side.

Only based on watching a few games as a kid, part time supporter mostly though. Girls game.
 
i used to hate union, but after living in the southern hemisphere i realised it was a totally different game they play down there, and the crusader are the finest exponents of it, they are supposed to be bringing a game to twickenham, as good an excuse as any to go see what looks a great stadium.
 

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