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Transfer Rumour Fikayo Tomori

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Jozzy said:
I know it’s important to develop our own talent but I’d love to see both Branthwaite and Gibson have a full season in the Championship to hopefully play 40+ games each.

Signing someone like Tomori gives Ancelotti twelve months to properly assess our CB’s and determine what he wants to do.

If we signed Tomori on loan I’d really want to have an option to buy so we can sign him straight if he impresses.We don’t want to go through a potential Zouma 2.0 situation.
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....I have no idea why posters want to see our best young players go on loan.
 
Eggs said:
....I have no idea why posters want to see our best young players go on loan.
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It's a tough call. Some players benefit from loans and some don't, everybody develops differently. Do we want our first team centre halves to be 18, 20 and 22? Do we want people going from playing competitive league football back to under 23s? There isn't a perfect scenario really.
 

tim cahill said:
So they can improve by playing games regularly.
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....that’s the perfect scenario but the reality is just as likely to be much different. Points are at a premium in the Championship, managers jobs are on the line so young CBs will not have much leeway to make mistakes. They will not be coached and mentored by Ancelotti.

There is an assumption these lads will go out and be a success, but it rarely happens at Everton and the likes of Galloway and Garbutt went quickly backwards. The best ones stay here.
 
Eggs said:
....that’s the perfect scenario but the reality is just as likely to be much different. Points are at a premium in the Championship, managers jobs are on the line so young CBs will not have much leeway to make mistakes. They will not be coached and mentored by Ancelotti.

There is an assumption these lads will go out and be a success, but it rarely happens at Everton and the likes of Galloway and Garbutt went quickly backwards. The best ones stay here.
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Lots of top players had loan deals.

Mount, Kane, Coleman, even David Beckham going right the way back.

A good loan can make a player too.
 

Eggs said:
....that’s the perfect scenario but the reality is just as likely to be much different. Points are at a premium in the Championship, managers jobs are on the line so young CBs will not have much leeway to make mistakes. They will not be coached and mentored by Ancelotti.

There is an assumption these lads will go out and be a success, but it rarely happens at Everton and the likes of Galloway and Garbutt went quickly backwards. The best ones stay here.
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I've said it before but Galloway and Garbutt didn't go backwards, they just didn't kick on. It's no different to Tom Davies or Rodwell for example, neither of whom went on loan. They're players who showed promise for a short while but ultimately weren't able to maintain the same level over a sustained period. It happens at all clubs, and in all sports. The problem is people's tendency to believe that having 3 or 4 quite good games as an 18 year old means that you're destined to be the reincarnation of Bobby Moore, and so believing that something has unfathomably gone wrong when your career doesn't pan out that way.
 
Eggs said:
....that’s the perfect scenario but the reality is just as likely to be much different. Points are at a premium in the Championship, managers jobs are on the line so young CBs will not have much leeway to make mistakes. They will not be coached and mentored by Ancelotti.

There is an assumption these lads will go out and be a success, but it rarely happens at Everton and the likes of Galloway and Garbutt went quickly backwards. The best ones stay here.
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There are success stories too though. Holgate and Coleman both benefitted from their loan spells. Maybe Galloway and Garbutt just weren’t very good?
 
carolinablue232 said:
There are success stories too though. Holgate and Coleman both benefitted from their loan spells. Maybe Galloway and Garbutt just weren’t very good?
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...not so sure Holgate ‘benefited’ from his loan, I think it was more a great example of a professional seizing an unlikely opportunity when it arose.

I have it in mind that Osman and Barkley are the only Academy players who’ve played more than 50 games for us after going on loan and both of those had major injuries at a key stage in their development.

i think the manager wants to use his best players regardless of age, which is why Gordon isn’t at Watford.
 

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