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Financial Fair Play investigation

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All of which should surely be of interest to a PL looking to 'sustain' football and a commission that might care to punish this club.
It wasn't for the EFL. Derby argued that various sanctions or legal battles had cost them investment, revenue, reputation damage etc to which they were basically told by the Commission that such negative consequences were their own fault. That their own actions had put them in a certain position- far more legalese of course.

This was when they were argued that they had already been partially punished after the EFL won on Appeal.
 
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£120m across the 2 years aggregated, yes it could be a positive. FFP allowances £25m per season so down to £35m, Covid losses...gross or net figure? ie Straight up Covid losses or Covid losses net or cost savings. SwissRamble last year looked at the latter.

Perhaps lop the £24.1m off too...that again halved the combined average.
That will teach me to at least check the figures I had it my mind it was £120m loss in year one at £30 odd million profit in year two.

Yep you are right £120 million over two year or £60 mill pa. .I think the covid losses were shown as grossing the sense of nett gate receipts but not factoring in lesser sums to put on a game. Chelsea however carried on paying all a number of match day staff throughput so even if we show an average of £40 million I suspect taking into account the sums paid back to the broadcasters, UEFA and the like that wont be an over estimate
 
That will teach me to at least check the figures I had it my mind it was £120m loss in year one at £30 odd million profit in year two.

Yep you are right £120 million over two year or £60 mill pa. .I think the covid losses were shown as grossing the sense of nett gate receipts but not factoring in lesser sums to put on a game. Chelsea however carried on paying all a number of match day staff throughput so even if we show an average of £40 million I suspect taking into account the sums paid back to the broadcasters, UEFA and the like that wont be an over estimate
I expect Chelsea fine to 2022, 2023 as it stands right now much sketchier.
 
It wasn't for the EFL. Derby argued that various sanctions or legal battles had cost them investment, revenue, reputation damage etc to which they were basically told by the Commission that such negative consequences were their own fault. That their own actions had put them in a certain position- far more legalese of course.

This was when they were argued that they had already been partially punished after the EFL won on Appeal.
Paragraph 75-95 (2) on here seems of interest in terms of legal argument etc.

 

It wasn't for the EFL. Derby argued that various sanctions or legal battles had cost them investment, revenue, reputation damage etc to which they were basically told by the Commission that such negative consequences were their own fault. That their own actions had put them in a certain position- far more legalese of course.

This was when they were argued that they had already been partially punished after the EFL won on Appeal.
That was much more complex and messy than Everton's case. They entered administration and were deducted 12 points. The P&S deduction came later and concerned some murkiness surrounding the sale of the stadium.
 
That was much more complex and messy than Everton's case. They entered administration and were deducted 12 points. The P&S deduction came later and concerned some murkiness surrounding the sale of the stadium.
Amortisation was what got them in the end, the sale was unbelievably cleared. They also didn't release accounts for 3 years so yes it's not wildly comparable.

Everton is more of a straight up accusation of breaching loss limits IMO.
 
Amortisation was what got them in the end, the sale was unbelievably cleared. They also didn't release accounts for 3 years so yes it's not wildly comparable.

Everton is more of a straight up accusation of breaching loss limits IMO.
It's more straight forward in the sense that the aurthorities know they're dealing with a solvent organisation that's been fully co-opertaing with an investigation into their spending.

Everton/Derby = Apples/Pears.
 
Just for completeness my understanding of the 777 takeover deal being done is subject to a guarantee from Moshiri to cover off any fine/penalty we get in respect of this.

I don't have a link as its literally news from a friend that's very close to this.

It's good news..
Wind it in, you do not have any mutual friends with Mr Moshiri or the 777 Sports Group or whatever they are called. Moderators, keep an eye on this one please.
 

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It's more straight forward in the sense that the aurthorities know they're dealing with a solvent organisation that's been fully co-opertaing with an investigation into their spending.

Everton/Derby = Apples/Pears.
Solvent yes, although Birmingham, Reading and Sheffield Wednesday were all solvent too. Yeah big the best comparison all I'm saying is that e.g. past embargoes or similar would not count as mitigation as such.

When the Reading Part Two is decided ie ongoing it'll be interesting to see what they get. Is that a bit more comparable? All of the FFP cases were different.
 
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Solvent yes, although Birmingham, Reading and Sheffield Wednesday were all solvent too. Yeah big the best comparison all I'm saying is that e.g. past embargoes or similar would not count as mitigation as such.

When the Reading Part Two is decided ie ongoing it'll be interesting to see what they get. Is that a bit more comparable? All of the FFP cases were different.

PL rules and EFL rules are not even comparable for mitigation nor precedent.
 

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