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Finch Farm Sold

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LOL that's the Echo banned again.

That will teach them for asking actual serious questions, steering away from the party line. Funny what the Echo can do when they try. Elstone's obviously upset about the report that revealed that Finch Farm was days away from being repossessed by the Government, as part of becoming property of the Crown due to Hudson Capital Properties being struck off and liquidated.

This is the article that Elstone is pissed off about:

http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/incoming/liverpool-council-bought-finch-farm-4307879

Finch Farm just weeks from being taken over by Government
13 Jun 2013 07:00
Company was at risk of being struck off

Liverpool Council leaders clinched the £13m deal to buy Everton FC’s training ground just weeks before it could have ended up being taken over by the Government.

The company that owned Finch Farm was at risk of being struck off and dissolved by the end of next month, the ECHO can reveal.

If that had happened, the Halewood site would have been taken from Finch Farm Ltd and put into Treasury coffers.

Treasury sources said, if that had happened, the Government would then have looked to sell it off.

But a Goodison insider confirmed Everton’s lease would have been secure even if this had taken place.

Concerns about the future of the 55-acre site grew as Finch Farm Ltd, previously known as ROM Capital (Academy) Ltd, failed to file accounts in January this year. They have still not been filed, and its annual return, due on April 27, is also still outstanding.

Three days later, the Registrar of Companies applied to have the company dissolved, so all assets would have gone to the Crown.

So far, no application to keep the company trading has been received.

Mayor of Liverpool Joe Anderson said it was important that the council helped the club where it could. He said the outlay on the deal, which has been bankrolled by borrowing at low interest rates, would be recouped in rent from the Blues.

Everton is in a long-term lease deal with the council and will have to pay the deal’s value – and more – back to the council in the long term. The ECHO understands they will end up paying double the amount borrowed by the council, but in smaller instalments over a longer period than under the deal with Finch Farm Ltd.

But, while opposition figures have questioned why the council is paying £13m for a site that the club sold to ROM Capital for just £2m, Mayor Anderson explained that the deal would still turn a profit when sold for the council.

He said: “Whatever the deal Everton did for the land, what we’ve got now is a complex that has infrastructure and buildings.

“Whether the value of the land has increased I don’t know, but there’s no way we would have paid anything without it being valued properly. It went past the District Auditor.”

No-one from Finch Farm Ltd could be contacted for comment but one of its directors, entrepreneur Robert David Whitton, was last in the headlines in 2008 when his £3bn property investment fund aAim, which boasted Sir David Frost as its chairman, collapsed into administration.

It ranked among its backers Sir Alex Ferguson and former TV presenter Anthea Turner’s husband Grant Bovey.

Mr Whitton became involved with the company that went on to become Finch Farm Ltd in 2006, and Everton moved in in 2007.

Council Lib Dem opposition leader Cllr Richard Kemp said more detail was needed on how the council had made the decision: “We need to know what the social and economic benefits are.

“If we are to make a profit from it, then we need to see report and there needs to be proper scrutiny of how the council thinks it can make a success of this.”

Club chief executive Robert Elstone has so far publicly said that “we continue to work with the council on many fronts and the club is especially pleased to have delivered an innovative scheme, on our superb Finch Farm facility, that works for both parties.”

An Everton source said: “Finch Farm Ltd was nothing to do with Everton. That’s all in the past now and we’ve reached a situation that works.”
 
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LOL that's the Echo banned again.

That will teach them for asking actual serious questions, steering away from the party line. Funny what the Echo can do when they try. Elstone's obviously upset about the report that revealed that Finch Farm was days away from being repossessed by the Government, as part of becoming property of the Crown due to Hudson Capital Properties being struck up and liquidated.

This is the article that Elstone is pissed off about:

http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/incoming/liverpool-council-bought-finch-farm-4307879

I don't really understand why Elstone would be mad at this, it really has nothing to do with Everton. Who cares if the government had come in, repossessed and sold it? Not sure how that's any different than Finch Farm Ltd selling it.
 
I don't really understand why Elstone would be mad at this, it really has nothing to do with Everton. Who cares if the government had come in, repossessed and sold it? Not sure how that's any different than Finch Farm Ltd selling it.

The impression I get is that it makes Everton look bad, that, and the council being able to take out a £12.9m loan over 25 years, but Everton not being able to. He's worried that more people might start asking questions.
 
The impression I get is that it makes Everton look bad, that, and the council being able to take out a £12.9m loan over 25 years, but Everton not being able to. He's worried that more people might start asking questions.

I don't really get that sense. I think it's fair to say that Everton can't take out a 12.9 million loan and everyone knows that. And certainly not a the rate the council does.

I'm not defending the guy, I just don't understand why he would get his panties in a wedge. If anything, it makes him look good that he found an investor to take all the risk of this facility.
 

It's laughable Elstone attacks the Echo for he claims putting out 'misleading' stories when this board have been doing the same ever since they acquired the club nearly 14 years ago.

He's got a nerve, I'll give him that.
 
I don't really get that sense. I think it's fair to say that Everton can't take out a 12.9 million loan and everyone knows that. And certainly not a the rate the council does.

I'm not defending the guy, I just don't understand why he would get his panties in a wedge. If anything, it makes him look good that he found an investor to take all the risk of this facility.


Probably doesn't want to put it out there that the club will have more money than it's letting on. :lol:
 
Got to laugh at Elstone, it looks like he has flipped as its no concern of his what the Echo writes about a third party.

The pressure is building on the useless fecker and its still nearly two weeks to go until he is ripped a new one by the EFCSA at the Phil.

Happy days, what goes around comes around and news today is that his replacement is being manoeuvred into position too!!!

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I'm going to be THAT guy. I think Elstone has a right to be peeved.

The Finch Farm complex was sold in May, we are still weeks from Finch Farm Ltd. being closed. It was sensationalistic, it's being closed because Finch Farm complex had been sold, had it not, it wouldn't be closed down. It's misleading. The parent company (in all but name) Hudson Capital Properties was wound up in December 2012.

It gives the impression that the Council swooped in and saved Finch Farm from the treasury when the reality is Finch Farm Ltd. would carry on for as long as necessary.

It doesn't mention that Finch Farm Ltd (then Rom Capital) invested £8m into the site after buying it for £2.1m from Everton. The article makes out that Everton (under)sold it for £2m before the council bought it back six years later for £13m. The article suggests that Everton undersold the land without mentioning it was sold to a developer, it questions Everton's business acumen when leaving out such an important fact (even though it Wyness' decision).

It makes suggestions that Everton are paying twice what was the council borrowed (£12.925m) spread the over duration of the lease. The suggestion must be wrong because it wouldn't make financial sense for the council to do it. The article then says that term of the lease payments have been lengthened ("over a longer period than under the deal with Finch Farm Ltd").

It raises questions about the legitimacy of the deal by asking Joe Anderson's (the Mayor of Liverpool who was approached by the club to buy Finch Farm) political rival about it, the rival Cllr. Kemp says he doesn't know about it and he'd like to see details. He's a councillor who's kept in the dark, it makes it seem like a clandestine agreement (which it is, but Robert Elstone won't be happy with it being asked).

It was a bad time for the Finch Farm story to come out politically for Joe Anderson, Joe Anderson is currently trying to push through a sale of grassland (referred to as "Meadowlands") near Sefton Park for £10m, he says it's not Sefton Park, those who want the housing development not to go ahead say it is Sefton Park. A councillor selling park land for £10m in the same week that it comes out spent £13m on a Premier League training complex is not having a good week.

In the mean time three important questions go unasked:

Why did Everton and the city council sit on the news it had been bought?
Why did Everton not attempt to buy it?
Why did the council lower the rent when there was no need to (financially speaking)?
 
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In the mean time three important questions go unasked:

Why did Everton and the city council sit on the news it had been bought?
Why did Everton not attempt to buy it?
Why did the council lower the rent when there was no need to (financially speaking)?

Hey Lou, why did those important questions go unasked and what are the answers ?
 
I'm going to be THAT guy. I think Elstone has a right to be peeved.

Its got absolutely nothing to do with Elstone or Everton who bought Finch Farm and its got absolutely nothing to do with Elstone or Everton what the Echo reported either.

Its none of his/their business.
 
I don't really get that sense. I think it's fair to say that Everton can't take out a 12.9 million loan and everyone knows that. And certainly not a the rate the council does.

I'm not defending the guy, I just don't understand why he would get his panties in a wedge. If anything, it makes him look good that he found an investor to take all the risk of this facility.

Wait a minute, are you saying Elstone found the investor for Finch Farm? If that's the case, hopefully he can find one for the club.

And, exactly what is the risk in a training ground anyway??
 
Its got absolutely nothing to do with Elstone or Everton who bought Finch Farm and its got absolutely nothing to do with Elstone or Everton what the Echo reported either.

Its none of his/their business.

Of course it is. The original article makes it sound like the club were in a precarious position regarding Finch Farm, when that's not the reality.
 
Who's arsed?


"KENWRONG OUT FFS WHERE'S THE ARTETA MONEY BILL?'.


Will this make any difference to anything? No.
 

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