Gang of [edit] erm, wimps.

[Saint Domingo]

Coleman has been saying this for years. He should start with himself. When he can control, pass, and cross a ball to the standard of an average premier league player then maybe other players can listen to his sermons on putting effort in.

 

[GrandOldTeam]

Talk is cheap,actions always speak louder, but usually as we see so many times the actions never come the next game, and we are the same and its been proved the last few again, but lets see if anything changes

Doesn't matter at this stage.

The jig is up and we are now seeing the club's captain and manager saying there's an attitude problem at the club.

A number of players know their card is marked and counting down the days.

 

[Zezti]

I love Everton, but even I have only been half invested in this Project Refarce, so whilst I want everybody sold and the club burnt to the ground, I can see why some players cba, but it doesn't excuse some of the things I've seen the last week.

Even if they only treat it halfarsed like pre-season, they should be wanting to state their claim with the new manager for a place in the side next season.
Tbf though, if I was one of them and I saw Pickford continually drop clanger after clanger and act all smug and never lose his place, I'd feel like I could drop my standards too.

 

[Goat]

Coleman has been saying this for years. He should start with himself. When he can control, pass, and cross a ball to the standard of an average premier league player then maybe other players can listen to his sermons on putting effort in.

Come off it.

Coleman has been a massive success, never understand why people have a pop at him.

At his peak he was 1 of the best fullbacks in the league and no, he's never been able to cross a ball, but he never gives less than 110%, he's getting older now so doesn't get up and down as much but and I know it's a cliche, if every player gave even half of what Coleman does we would be vastly better.

We as fans always appreciated effort and passion and there's nobody better than Coleman.

Dont come at Seamus!

 

[Alanbileysfeathercut]

All us old heads have been saying this for a good while.
The cup game v rs confirmed this,disregardless of the manager.
Downward spiral since this restart.
And the lack of fans have given this shower a free hand.
See a few folk falling out of love with our great team,which is a shame.
Think we need to realise these players don't care about the fans, just a job and a fantastic lifestyle for them.

 

[DanB90]

Doesn't matter at this stage.

The jig is up and we are now seeing the club's captain and manager saying there's an attitude problem at the club.

A number of players know their card is marked and counting down the days.

Realistically, how many of these overpaid wasters are we going to be able to cull in one transfer window though?
I can’t think of a single team who would want some of them for anywhere near the wages they’ll be on.

 

[riddick]

I love Everton, but even I have only been half invested in this Project Refarce, so whilst I want everybody sold and the club burnt to the ground, I can see why some players cba, but it doesn't excuse some of the things I've seen the last week.

I mean, I can see why some players cba but that speaks volumes about their character. If your job is to give 100% and you get paid millions to do it, you should do it regardless of if all this is relatively meaningless.

 

[brieverton]

With such a big turnover in managers and players, I'd fully expect there to be different camps and cliques in the squad.

We've had several inklings of this in the recent past. And we can all see the attitude on the pitch at times.

Players and coaching staff that seem to be coming and going, so maybe the instability over the years has gradually ripped the identity from the club and we see the result on the pitch.

Today's match will be the sort that people look in in years to come if Ancelotti turns this around - the time when Everton really were "that bad". As dreadful as you can get without flirting with relegation.

Gutless and spineless are two very suitable descriptors. They physically describe what we lack - guts and a spine.

It's obvious we lack quality, but for me we could still do somewhat better. We've had regular patches under several managers where we have looked atrocious for entire games, and for runs of successive games. Games where a bunch of supposedly top-level players can go 90+ minutes without a shot at goal, and barely stringing two passes together. Making strings of half-hearted runs, losing concentration, not marking, and hiding from tackles.

It would be called presenteeism in any other form of work. Turning up, going through the notions, not caring, and collecting a paycheck.

I don't think Ancelotti would have told any of them that they aren't needed for next season but it seems some of them have already decided they're going to be out of favour anyway. The worrying thing is we are going to have to rely on the majority of them still.

At its core, there is no leadership on the pitch, the players seem meek and timid. Coleman, for all his good intentions, hasn't been able to affect that positively in any way and if there is anything to read from that, some of the players to me just don't respect him as captain. They don't respect the fans either, that is clear.

We need both quality and character. We are not going to crawl up the table without both. You can't have one and not the other without being found out. We don't have either and that's why we are where we are.

 

[Goat]

All us old heads have been saying this for a good while.
The cup game v rs confirmed this,disregardless of the manager.
Downward spiral since this restart.
And the lack of fans have given this shower a free hand.
See a few folk falling out of love with our great team,which is a shame.
Think we need to realise these players don't care about the fans, just a job and a fantastic lifestyle for them.

Have you ever considered why these players don't care about the fans?

A few will tweet later and hundreds of so-called "fans" will call them all sorts.

 

[Zezti]

Come off it.

Coleman has been a massive success, never understand why people have a pop at him.

At his peak he was 1 of the best fullbacks in the league and no, he's never been able to cross a ball, but he never gives less than 110%, he's getting older now so doesn't get up and down as much but and I know it's a cliche, if every player gave even half of what Coleman does we would be vastly better.

We as fans always appreciated effort and passion and there's nobody better than Coleman.

Dont come at Seamus!

Never see him pull of out a tackle or jog back. He's limited in some areas but have to agree I've never seen him put in a half arsed performance.

 

[Eggs]

Doesn't matter at this stage.

The jig is up and we are now seeing the club's captain and manager saying there's an attitude problem at the club.

A number of players know their card is marked and counting down the days.

...this seems the obvious conclusion from the post-match comments. The sad thing is that the players with the attitude problem won’t be overly bothered.

 

[Alanbileysfeathercut]

Have you ever considered why these players don't care about the fans?

A few will tweet later and hundreds of so-called "fans" will call them all sorts.

That goes with the territory in this day and age.
The point I was trying to make is that most fans do think the players care.
I'm not on Twitter btw.

 

[Eggs]

Coleman has been saying this for years. He should start with himself. When he can control, pass, and cross a ball to the standard of an average premier league player then maybe other players can listen to his sermons on putting effort in.

....top professional. Terrific immediately after Lockdown, his performance might have dropped but he still plays like the game matters. As Ancelotti said after the game, we wouldn’t have a problem if ‘they all had the same attitude as Seamus’.

 

[Seathestars]

There’s a bad apple somewhere in the club or team.
A manager with the stature of Ancelotti bounces in and half still couldn’t care less.

 

[JLW]

Doesn't matter at this stage.

The jig is up and we are now seeing the club's captain and manager saying there's an attitude problem at the club.

A number of players know their card is marked and counting down the days.

I wonder if he has said anything at training if he has noticed this lack of effort? Because a real captain should be taking their heads off if this is happening on a daily basis.