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He's been involved in football for over a decade and thinks being "number 11" is the correct way to describe being "11th". I think that speaks to a lack of feel for the game at the very least.

Or its got nothing to do with football and really isn't something to get irate at?
 
You can only fault where some of his money has gone not that he isn’t coughing up.

Absolutely correct. He relied on others to make football related decisions and they cocked it up in part by buying poor players. I can't understand the negativity towards Moshiri either. Of course there are a few who are negative about everything Everton do. He has learned from mistakes so lets go ahead with his new strategy and stop paying high prices for rubbish players. How long will it take to get back near the top? Probably years and years. That is the way it might be.
 
So 'we' does not include himself?

And as a club - the board, him, Kenwright, Elstone, the managers, the players - have all made mistakes...
Its WE David, WE are all in this together, its not him and us, its US and WE.

Its about how WE go forward now or you spend the next few years talking about the last few years, something that constantly holds this club back, STOP LOOKING BACKWARDS.
It's "me" when things go right, "we" when there's blame to take.
 

I'm not being negative though? I'm really not, at all. He's been good for us, but he's not done anything to suggest that talk of joining the elite and winning the league is realistic. When he came in he made some noises that suggested things were going to change massively here, but they haven't really. I don't blame him for that, he's not got the money of City or PSG etc, but his bullishness has probably led to a bit more impatience from fans who expected more, and he doesn't really seem to have learnt from that because things like this are still being said.

I said to another poster, it's disingenuous to say there was no timescale given. As I said, football fans are volatile, fickle, impatient, whatever you want to call them. When you say you have an ambition it will be taken that you mean in the next 10 years as an absolute maximum. You can't just say 'yeah you might all be dead but it will happen I promise'. If we haven't cracked the top 4 in 4-5 seasons, and are still signing the type of players we are now, you can bet your life there will be grumblings about lies and promises not being kept etc, when better communication could have had people saying this is great, we're going the right way. I just think we could do without this sort of bullish statement, it doesn't mean I don't like Moshiri or think he's a fraud.


Again i see where your coming from, but it's so much harder to buy your success than it was when say, Jack Walker was around or Abromovich or even Cities owners. Because no matter what we spend, they will outspend us, with a better starting point, better facilities, sponsors, CL football etc.
Even Liverpool are spending £70m on goalkeepers and centre halves. You can only do your best and there is nothing wrong with talking about your ambitions.
 

Feck off!

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Yeah, to be clear, i'm not knocking Moshiri here. He's spent money, changed things, taken an interest etc. That's all good. I just mean in this particular sense, nobody can honestly say that he's been a game changer in terms of our ambitions so far. We haven't signed a single player that would have been unthinkable before he came, our managerial appointments are no more ambitious than they were, and our best players have still left us when they've had the chance. Fans of other clubs are not looking nervously at Everton thinking the sleeping giant is waking, they would not see any difference between us three years ago and now, other than that we now sign 3-4 players a year of the type you would expect, rather than 1-2.

Oh I agree mate. I think the intention has been there whereas some suggest it hasn't. But yes, for all that he's tried, so far, not much has gone right.
 
Very positive meeting with all the right things being said. I am feeling very optimistic for the future and predict our trophy cabinet will not remain empty for very long. I've decided against purchasing an organic avocado orchard here in NZ, in favour of buying an up-market Liverpool apartment (in anticipation of retiring there so I can end my days as a season ticket holder at BMD...which I envisage will be up and running in 2022)

I suspect Goodison will be absolutely jumping this weekend...buzzing with feel-good factor. Bournemouth will curse the timing of this game.
 
Very positive meeting with all the right things being said. I am feeling very optimistic for the future and predict our trophy cabinet will not remain empty for very long. I've decided against purchasing an organic avocado orchard here in NZ, in favour of buying an up-market Liverpool apartment (in anticipation of retiring there so I can end my days as a season ticket holder at BMD...which I envisage will be up and running in 2022)

I suspect Goodison will be absolutely jumping this weekend...buzzing with feel-good factor. Bournemouth will curse the timing of this game.
Nope, but I applaud your upbeat manner well done.
 

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