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If I thought you were sincere or had an ounce of integrity, I would happily share it with you - she works hard and would've been made up.

I wouldn't have corresponded with you privately if I'd known I'd have to justify deeply personal posts I've made in a thread you purport to 'care' about.

Not to worry, lesson learned.

Don't question whether I care about that thread.

Very little of the private conversation has been quoted, just those posts that are already publicly visible.

Your very public insistence on other posters justifying themselves and clarifying previous comments should mean you have no issue justifying your own when they look a bit iffy.

If in your world that means I lack integrity and sincerity then so be it..
 

thank u mr ungle. the court now rests until magistrate @orly passes his closing comments. can i remind everyone this is an emotive case and i urge respectful dialogue.
 
Don't question whether I care about that thread.

Very little of the private conversation has been quoted, just those posts that are already publicly visible.

Your very public insistence on other posters justifying themselves and clarifying previous comments should mean you have no issue justifying your own when they look a bit iffy.

If in your world that means I lack integrity and sincerity then so be it..
I think if anyone with integrity had any genuine concerns about what I’d said privately and wanted to resolve the matter decently, you would have handled it privately - in the same manner we conducted our conversation the other day.

It’s quite clear you wanted a public platform to further stir the pot and encourage others to continue to attack my credibility. And after making such a fuss and trawling through many months of posts (which it’s quite clear you have) the only inconsistency was how long I told you I’d been with my wife in a casual, private conversation on a Friday evening.

No sizeable, glaring conflicts of information that you alleged there were. Given the circumstances, I believe a decent person would apologise. I won’t hold my breath.

As you shamelessly pointed out, this all comes back to the fact that, what appears to be, one of your mates was guilty of appalling bigoted, homophobic language and when I raised the issue and you were presented with multiple instances of very clear offensive, homophobic language (and having an impartial, offended party request that this language not be used), rather than condemn that behaviour - you chose to quiz and attack me, which speaks volumes.

As per the rules of the forum, I don't want to drag the topic off course and I’ll say no more on the matter, happy to continue the conversation privately if you so wish.
 
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It's not my intention to prosecute anyone, just that with Roberter, Itsokimababypilot and a couple of others misusing the depression thread previously I'm always keen to clear stuff like that up.

Tell all the fibs you like on the rest of the forum, I couldn't give a toss, I've no doubt been partial to the odd one as have most, but not in that thread.
Roberter totally had me in that thread and at a damn vulnerable moment too
He continued the deception on in private messages as well.

Have to admit it has since made me less willing to open up to others on here unless I know them really well which is sadly antithetical to the great spirit of that thread. So agree that any misuse of that thread needs to be at a whole different level to comments elsewhere in the forum.
 
thank u mr ungle. the court now rests until magistrate @orly passes his closing comments. can i remind everyone this is an emotive case and i urge respectful dialogue.

Good evening Mein SpiderFrandel and persons of the court

I have to say, I am very, very disappointed with young @Keiran here. Inconsistencies with his story telling and remorseless defence of his bad behaviours have, when added to his MJ defending, left a very sour taste indeed.

In mitigation - as is right and frandely - his crimes have been bad, but are they @ItsOKImAPilot / @Robertor / @Vegas Toffee Girl porkies? Not yet perhaps.

Ultimately in my recommendation to the court I commit the following: @Archie Knox is the dreadful individual known as @butters and @dholliday is the very worst person on the site.

As for Keiran... I do not know.
 
Roberter totally had me in that thread and at a damn vulnerable moment too
He continued the deception on in private messages as well.

Have to admit it has since made me less willing to open up to others on here unless I know them really well which is sadly antithetical to the great spirit of that thread. So agree that any misuse of that thread needs to be at a whole different level to comments elsewhere in the forum.

That's the thing - @Robertor and @Soap are genuine, real-life bad people. And much as Butters is drawn inexorably to the Transfer Thread, those two weapons go around telling lies in the Depression thread.

Very, very bad.
 

I think if anyone with integrity had any genuine concerns about what I’d said privately and wanted to resolve the matter decently, you would have handled it privately - in the same manner we conducted our conversation the other day.

It’s quite clear you wanted a public platform to further stir the pot and encourage others to continue to attack my credibility. And after making such a fuss and trawling through many months of posts (which it’s quite clear you have) the only inconsistency was how long I told you I’d been with my wife in a casual, private conversation on a Friday evening.

No sizeable, glaring conflicts of information that you alleged there were. Given the circumstances, I believe a decent person would apologise. I won’t hold my breath.

As you shamelessly pointed out, this all comes back to the fact that, what appears to be, one of your mates was guilty of appalling bigoted, homophobic language and when I raised the issue and you were presented with multiple instances of very clear offensive, homophobic language (and having an impartial, offended party request that this language not be used), rather than condemn that behaviour - you chose to quiz and attack me, which speaks volumes.

As per the rules of the forum, I don't want to drag the topic off course and I’ll say no more on the matter, happy to continue the conversation privately if you so wish.
I'm just on the outside looking in here matey but correct me if I'm wrong, you have told a person on the internet who you wouldn't know if you tripped over him in the street yours and your wives personal information about certain things and you are disappointed he has revealed certain things about it......Get a grip lad.
 
I'm just on the outside looking in here matey but correct me if I'm wrong, you have told a person on the internet who you wouldn't know if you tripped over him in the street yours and your wives personal information about certain things and you are disappointed he has revealed certain things about it......Get a grip lad.

I took him at face value. Being a long term member of the forum and a member of staff too. I expected that his questions were sincere and an attempt to get to know me, rather than an interrogation to discredit my attack on his mate.

Everything I've shared in that thread and since has been utterly sincere, even talking about my troubles with my weight and anxiety. It's an important thread and one I've posted in countless times, purely in support of others.

He's trawled through months of posts and actually verified quite a few things, including the date of my wedding!

The only inconsistency, literally the only one, is me posting that I'd been with my wife for 5 years, then privately saying that I'd been with her 3.5 years (which is how long we were engaged, not how long we were together).

It's hardly a sizeable discrepancy and isn't proof of anything. If i'd known it would be dredged up again on the forum publicly, I'd have perhaps been more precise with my answer.
 
I took him at face value. Being a long term member of the forum and a member of staff too. I expected that his questions were sincere and an attempt to get to know me, rather than an interrogation to discredit my attack on his mate.

Everything I've shared in that thread and since has been utterly sincere, even talking about my troubles with my weight and anxiety. It's an important thread and one I've posted in countless times, purely in support of others.

He's trawled through months of posts and actually verified quite a few things, including the date of my wedding!

The only inconsistency, literally the only one, is me posting that I'd been with my wife for 5 years, then privately saying that I'd been with her 3.5 years (which is how long we were engaged, not how long we were together).

It's hardly a sizeable discrepancy and isn't proof of anything. If i'd known it would be dredged up again on the forum publicly, I'd have perhaps been more precise with my answer.
One thing is clear, you like to play the victim. You’re ok giving it but you don’t like it back.
 
I took him at face value. Being a long term member of the forum and a member of staff too. I expected that his questions were sincere and an attempt to get to know me, rather than an interrogation to discredit my attack on his mate.

Everything I've shared in that thread and since has been utterly sincere, even talking about my troubles with my weight and anxiety. It's an important thread and one I've posted in countless times, purely in support of others.

He's trawled through months of posts and actually verified quite a few things, including the date of my wedding!

The only inconsistency, literally the only one, is me posting that I'd been with my wife for 5 years, then privately saying that I'd been with her 3.5 years (which is how long we were engaged, not how long we were together).

It's hardly a sizeable discrepancy and isn't proof of anything. If i'd known it would be dredged up again on the forum publicly, I'd have perhaps been more precise with my answer.
Mate I just don't get why you would talk to a perfect stranger on the internet about personal things.I'm not taking sides either way, you seem like an intelligent lad and it surprised me that you thought it was a good idea.If I were you mate I would keep it to footy and other things silly.
 

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