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She’ll deffo know someone, if not I know a very good place in Altrincham.
Well, at 24 I think I'm knackered
Had a fall while out running in April and my left leg from knee down is shot. Going to physio once a week at the moment (at first they thought my lower back was the problem, but my leg has got worse - feels like a tear/strain to me - and they now think it's a whole raft of issues).
Haven't been able to run on the road in about a month. Early June I was struggling to walk, though that's not as much of an issue now. Tried one run outdoors two weeks ago though and it set me back about 10 days in terms of the pain being there.
Managed to get on the treadmill for 25 minutes though on Sunday. Have been doing a lot of work on the exercise bike and bodyweight training/weights in the gym, though it just doesn't work for me as well as running does. Good cardio session all round on Sunday though (cross trainer, bike, treadmill, some box work, cross trainer, swim) to try and get a bit of a catch up.
If anyone has any advice for dealing with similar injuries that'd be great. The rehab/prehab bodyweight exercises do help strengthen it a bit, but when the pain comes it's hard to do much at all. At first I thought it was shin splints, but the pain has spread all around my leg below my knee. From a numb ache to a sharp pain to literally my leg buckling underneath me when it straightens (which is why I can't run).
The leg buckling under you sounds similar to my brother a few years back. He injured his knee when we were playing squash and a couple of times in the following week his leg just gave way and he ended up in a crumpled heap. I can't remember what he'd done, knackered his ligaments I think but he had to have 2 lots of knee surgery and lots of physio before it was anywhere near normal again.
Right laugh lol
Yeh, it's not nice. It gives way - there's not a pain when it does, it just genuinely goes. That was when I first noticed the problem back in early May time. I was running and just felt like I had no power behind my left knee. Next thing is there was pain behind my shin and then all down my lower leg at the front (but the knee goes at the back it feels like).
The physio reckoned at first it could be that my fall (which was on my left side) could have knocked my pelvis out a bit and that was the route cause, due to nerve pain. But they've been working on that for weeks and my legs has just got worse, so having to try a different approach now.
I've watched a load of chiropractic videos lately and they've convinced me that there's quite a lot of stuff that can be fixed by having a fairly thorough chiro examination and a few sessions to crack/knock everything back into place in a way that I can't imagine physio does.
It's probably not cheap but if it persists then it might be worth a go, seen a few videos where surgery hasn't worked and people have had chronic pain for years but within 4-5 chiro sessions there has been significant improvement. There's always a chance that I've been taken in a bit too much by these videos and they're blagging it but they seem genuine enough.
I started going to a chiro in 2016 mate. Does help, but it's never been a permanent fix - i.e. the problem always comes back and it's a really expensive do. I had plenty of problems with my back in the past and it has helped alleviate the issue. I'd definitely recommend it though, yeh. The relief is definitely noticeable.
I'm holding off on going the chiro just yet as I'm convinced the main problem is in my leg not my back. I know what the pain is like when I have back pain and I know from injuries I've had in the past this doesn't feel like it's that. So I want to be sure before trying another course of therapy that's gonna set me back a few hundred quid.
My previous chiro was good but sometimes didn't seem as thorough as he could have been, too, so will probably switch to another one if I do go down that route for this injury.
Dr Jason in America seems good mate, look him up on youtube. If you can cover the flight costs each week then it seems an ideal solution to me.
On a serious note good luck getting it fixed, can put a proper downer on stuff when you've got a persistent issue like that so hopefully you get it resolved.
Chiropractic Medicine is another YT channel that's big atm
Though think that's for the ASMR weirdos...Cheers mate. Yeh it's frustrating. Running is just the best form of exercise that works for my body. Not being able to do it is getting to me. The buzz of being able to do 25 mins on the treadmill the other day gave me a lift. Small steps and all that.
The benefit is I've watched a fair bit of this Become Elite channel on YT, and he's been coming back from surgery on a hernia. Got a lot of the bodyweight exercises from that and they're at least something different. Issue is I can only work on those atm with a bit of cardio on the bike in the main, but once I'm hopefully back up to it then I've got a lot more to incorporate into my workouts. Weight training bores me and always has done.
5k last night in 23 minutes. First one since Glasto so pretty happy
Just done my 3rd trail race of the year - 13.8 miles on the moors off the M62 near Rochdale.
My left trainer gave up the ghost in the peat after 4 miles, which meant I had to run the best part of 10 miles on the moors with only one shoe.
Still finished, but a personal worst of 3hrs 11 mins lol
Leg has been gradually getting better. Had about three weeks relatively pain fee but running felt weird - almost like I'm lopsided.
Last two weeks pain has been on and off.
Easier to run on a treadmill and sprint than it is to do long distances. Well, I say long, but I'm so tight and the pain comes on and off that yesterday 3 miles was tough (even though heartrate/breathing etc was all fine). On Friday though I did about a 1.5 mile fast run (took me 10 mins) round the block and felt fine.
Everything's pretty tight so having to do a lot of deep stretching to try and loosen up.
More physio this week. Think the problem in my calf is muscular, and then the physio reckons my pelvis being out is probably causing a bit of nerve pain in my back which is pinging down my leg.
Last two weeks pain has been on and off.
Easier to run on a treadmill and sprint than it is to do long distances. Well, I say long, but I'm so tight and the pain comes on and off that yesterday 3 miles was tough (even though heartrate/breathing etc was all fine). On Friday though I did about a 1.5 mile fast run (took me 10 mins) round the block and felt fine.
Everything's pretty tight so having to do a lot of deep stretching to try and loosen up.
More physio this week. Think the problem in my calf is muscular, and then the physio reckons my pelvis being out is probably causing a bit of nerve pain in my back which is pinging down my leg.
Your muscles are tight, as they`re not ready to do what you`re trying to get them to do.
Lose some of the mileage on your long run and build it back up slowly.
Sounds like your shoes could be a possible problem too ?
Using the right shoes is so so important and wearing the wrong shoes can be the cause of so many problems which can even be overlooked by the likes of physios.
It took me years to realise this: > foot problems > joint problems > shin splints > tendonitus > achillies problems > groin strains, all can be caused by the wrong shoes.
I`m pure off road, but currently run off 7 pairs of shoes, which all do slightly different things and deffo help minimise strains / injuries.
This is to the extreme, as I`m a serious runner, but you`ll find most have similar numbers of shoes, if not more !!
3 x very cushioned for hard road / trails - 1 pair for speed / 1 pair for long and easy trails / 1 pair for long and hard trails.
2 x proper mud with monster grip / virtually no cushioning.
1 x moderate cushioning for hills and nothing else.
1 x race shoes ( the ones that exploded ! )
I appreciate that you`re only running on the road / treadmill, but you ideally you need at least two pairs minimum :
One for speed.
One for distance.
When you do speed work you run more on the soles of your feet, which puts loads of strain on your calves / achillies.
With distance you tend to run more on your midfoot and heel, so these areas need to be cushioned too.
It`s worth going to see a specialist sports physio or podiatrist, as they`ll do a gait analysis, look at your shoes and maybe recommend inserts to put in your shoes to correct any problems with your running style - I see a lad in Altrincham, who looks after the Man U team, whose not cheap, but is an ultra runner himself, so knows about the practical as well as the theory.
Shoes - yep, I changed shoes in Feb time. They were fine, but I'm not sure if they're right for me. Gonna get some others that are more similar to the more cushioned ones I had before.
And yep, I'll definitely hit you up on the lad in Altrincham once I've got the money!
Treadmill running is absolutely fine, so it's just frustrating trying to build my fitness back up (outdoors) and being unable to push through.
Natterjacks in town will do a free gait analysis if you buy a pair of shoes off them - that’ll point you in the right direction for the shoes that suit you.
The biggest problem is that every brand fits / sizes different. Some size small / big / narrow / wide.
So that’s we’re the likes of Natterjacks come in as they’ let you try loads of different brands on.
Did Southport 10k in September. Was flat and perfect conditions for running if a little wet. The first competitive sport I have done for over ten years, felt good to feel competitive again.
Done a couple of Park Runs since which are semi-competitive I guess, but next doing the Oulton Park GP circuit 10k on the 1st december. The course looks harder with more height gain so i'm not hopeful of improving my time, but i am wondering if anyone has any experience of running races in both summer and winter and if the temperature affects their times?
Done a couple of Park Runs since which are semi-competitive I guess, but next doing the Oulton Park GP circuit 10k on the 1st december. The course looks harder with more height gain so i'm not hopeful of improving my time, but i am wondering if anyone has any experience of running races in both summer and winter and if the temperature affects their times?
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