How much did Britain really win WW2?

[mmmmsnouts]

if you consider the Cold War as an extension of the same conflict (as many do), then you arrive at a very different conclusion.

Russia took the first leg in a close match on home soil but the West came back strong in the second leg and won it on aggregate. A lot like the current situation.

 

[DavidH]

Hitler was a vegetarian with bad wind by all accounts

Hence he moved to the eagles lair

He just gets worse

 

[Shevin Keedy]

Nazi's won the fashion war.

This is subjective but probably true.

I watched Quadrophenia the other night and seeing a young Sting doing the mashed potato in a grey leather trench coat put me in mind of a carefree off duty SS-Oberst-Gruppenführer.

Say what you like about the nazis' policies, but style was something they did well.

 

[magicjuan]

Russia were on the brink of being defeated and would have been had it not for German tactics. I'd say it is therefore their own fault they didn't but that said even if they had have taken Russia could they defeat America and the atomic bombs that would have been dropped on them instead? Probably not.

Germany wasn't far off 'the bomb' itself and could have delivered it by rocket. Hence Operation Paperclip at the end of the war and the beginning of the cold war.

 

[Rita_Poon]

He just gets worse

Do you know how high he liked his salad stacked?

 

[DavidH]

Do you know how high he liked his salad stacked?

Go on ......

 

[Rita_Poon]

Go on ......

 

[DavidH]

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That delivered.

 

[Hinchcliffe's Corner]

I find it interesting that both Germany and Japan are both progressive economic powerhouses with decent societies far preferable to their conquerors nearly a century ago. Perhaps Britain needs to get beaten in a bar for longer term beneficial societal chance.

Are England the baddies now?

Are you suggesting that Germany should have won and continued to gas Jews? It's a bold strategy Cotton...

 

[LostLegend]

Any excuse to repost one of my favourite bits of stand-up of all time:

"Nationalism does nothing but teach you to hate people you’ve never met.
All of a sudden you take pride in accomplishments you had no part in whatsoever.

If you’re American you’ll go, ‘F- the French. If we hadn’t saved their asses in World War II, they’d be speaking German right now.’
And you go, ‘Oh, was that us?’ Was that me and you, Tommy? We saved the French?

Jesus. I know I blacked out a little after that fourth shot of Jägermeister last night, but I don’t remember… I know we were going through the Wendy’s drive-thru to get one of them ‘Freshetta’ sandwiches that looked so alluring on the commercial, but then we ordered it and realized we had no money, and we had to ditch out before the second window, and those douche-bags in line behind us with the bass music probably got our order and we laughed about that.
But I don’t remember saving the French at all.

I went through the last ten calls on my cell phone and there’s nothing from the French, looking for muscle on a project. I checked my pants; there’s no mud stains on the knees from when we were garroting Krauts in the trenches at Verdun. I think *we* didn’t do anything but watch sports bloopers while we got hammered. I think *we* should shut the f- up."

 

[Rita_Poon]

Any excuse to repost one of my favourite bits of stand-up of all time:

"Nationalism does nothing but teach you to hate people you’ve never met.
All of a sudden you take pride in accomplishments you had no part in whatsoever.

If you’re American you’ll go, ‘F- the French. If we hadn’t saved their asses in World War II, they’d be speaking German right now.’
And you go, ‘Oh, was that us?’ Was that me and you, Tommy? We saved the French?

Jesus. I know I blacked out a little after that fourth shot of Jägermeister last night, but I don’t remember… I know we were going through the Wendy’s drive-thru to get one of them ‘Freshetta’ sandwiches that looked so alluring on the commercial, but then we ordered it and realized we had no money, and we had to ditch out before the second window, and those douche-bags in line behind us with the bass music probably got our order and we laughed about that.
But I don’t remember saving the French at all.

I went through the last ten calls on my cell phone and there’s nothing from the French, looking for muscle on a project. I checked my pants; there’s no mud stains on the knees from when we were garroting Krauts in the trenches at Verdun. I think *we* didn’t do anything but watch sports bloopers while we got hammered. I think *we* should shut the f- up."

Love Doug

 

[BlueLlama]

Nazi's won the fashion war.

If only Ashtonian is as here to tell us how boss Hitler was

 

[peteblue]

I’m sure I’ve mentioned this before, but here’s a picture of my Grandfather’s ship, the Weimarama, carrying aircraft fuel and munitions to Malta just after it was hit by German bombers during Operation Pedestal. He and most other crew died immediately, a few lucky ones were blown into the sea and later picked up .




My father at the time was on the battleship HMS Duke of York escorting arms shipments up the North Sea to Russia on the Russian convoys.

My father always said to me we couldn’t have won the war without the support of America, nor without us supporting Russia. We didn’t win it on our own, but without Britain and its empire resisting for two years basically on our own, the world might now be a totally different place and we’d all be wearing leather trench coats….

It would be nice if people appreciated what our fathers and grandparents did for us tbh…..

 

[Rita_Poon]

 

[Gwladys St. Glory]

It was made winnable by the Poles, particularly Marian Rejewski. But many played a part., it was a collective.