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howard’s way

Richard Alex said:
Even Mark Lawrenson suggested Liverpool FC brushed the whole Hysel disaster under the carpet.
Even the average football fan of any team is not aware of the what happened. It’s a media blackout from the kopite loving scumbags.
Their fans still wave the Bucharest flag every week though don’t they.
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Theyre also on the verge of making Heysel a taboo subject.
 
I don’t know why they included the Derek Hatton angle. Was Everton winning things not interesting enough to make a documentary out of, they had to include a subplot about a small time militant Councillor?
 

banno said:
The thing is we were ranked highly (like Liverpool had been due to uefa success) which meant at that time we would have faced all the minnows first then the bigger clubs in the semi's. So we had a great chance and IMO would have reached the final at a minimum. Our team was easily good enough to win it and had already been lauded as the best team in Europe
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Let's not forget the financial benefits.
 
banno said:
The thing is we were ranked highly (like Liverpool had been due to uefa success) which meant at that time we would have faced all the minnows first then the bigger clubs in the semi's. So we had a great chance and IMO would have reached the final at a minimum. Our team was easily good enough to win it and had already been lauded as the best team in Europe
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I'm convinced we would have won it. Steaua Bucharest won that European Cup. They were a good side of Romanian internationals, but not in our class. They beat a very flakey Barcelona in Spain in the final. We would have murdered that Barca side over two legs had we met them. Other big contenders in 1986 were IFK Gothenburg who, I suspect, would have given us a game - but would still have come up short against us. Lineker's goals alone in 86 would have given us a cutting edge others simply did not have.

Had we won it in 1986, we would have been back again in 1987. That was a tough year for us, injury-wise, but the finalists that year were FC Porto - a good side with some flair, but a bit of a one-season wonder, and our old friends Bayern Munich. Liverpool would have been the biggest threat that year.

Had we won it in 1987 - or simply just won the league, as we did - then we would have faced a stronger set of opponents in 1988. But there are too many variables at this point to extrapolate anything of any real certainty by this stage.

Nevertheless, we lost the chance to build a dynasty.
 
Richard Alex said:
Even Mark Lawrenson suggested Liverpool FC brushed the whole Hysel disaster under the carpet.
Even the average football fan of any team is not aware of the what happened. It’s a media blackout from the kopite loving scumbags.
Their fans still wave the Bucharest flag every week though don’t they.
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Yes, that's the disgusting hypocrisy of them: celebrating the success of a club that no longer even exists under the same name because their murderous thuggery got their biggest rivals banned when they were at the peak of their history.

And the same rivals who stood four-square behind them three years later in the next tragedy.

Repulsive low-lives.
 

banno said:
The thing is we were ranked highly (like Liverpool had been due to uefa success) which meant at that time we would have faced all the minnows first then the bigger clubs in the semi's. So we had a great chance and IMO would have reached the final at a minimum. Our team was easily good enough to win it and had already been lauded as the best team in Europe
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Of course we'll never know if we'd have won it, but it was an era when English clubs were very strong and successful in Europe. Between 1975 and 85 they won seven European cups (Liverpool 4, Forest 2 and Villa), and had two finalists (Leeds and Liverpool) plus Everton, Liverpool and Spurs (who would have actually played Forest in the UEFA cup final if the referee in Forest's semi final hadn't taken a bribe,something which was proven) also winning the other European trophies. You even had one Scottish team, Aberdeen, beating Real Madrid in the CWC final and another in Dundee United reaching the European Cup semi's in 84 (many think they were cheated out of the final that season). I don't think the two finalists in 1986 would have been a problem for that Everton team, in fact that Barcelona side would actually be beaten home and away by Dundee United in the UEFA cup the following season (imagine that now!).
 
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Had to dig this up from page 6. But I finally was able to watch this yesterday. I loved it. I felt super proud and nostalgic. What a great era for the club. I hope we’re at the start of another great era 💙
 
I really hate to say it, but for all the joy you get watching Everton, Howard's Way, from seeing players and recalling past glories, it's a pretty lackluster documentary that spends most of its time putting a camera on someone to say, "Howard was really special," but never really tells you why. It's like one of those music documentaries filled with people saying, "Oh, man! That band? They were the best!," over and over again. It made me nostalgic for something, but I still didn't know what it was.
 
Yeah, I can see that. It was a lot of sitting around in the kitchen. It could’ve been a lot more. Unfortunately, not too many Everton films out there. Simpler times, though. Felt more grassroots. They were just at the cusp of the international explosion that would take place. Those guys all seemed tougher, too. Sure, they flopped to draw a card. Most times, the ref said to play on.
 
I should have kept it to myself. I don't want to be negative, but I expected something different, and it's surprising there isn't more given the history.
 

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