Confirmed Signing Idrissa Gueye

[Paul Rideout]

Asking a player to play a match isn't too much to ask

asking them to play a match but under the condition they have to wear a top that supports a stance that goes againt the wishes of their deity that they believe and can jeapordise their entrance into the good afterlife is though, isn't it.

 

[Spadge Vernacular]

If Gueye saw this thread and the apparent worrying Islamophobia some are demonstrtating he would probably be shocked at the intolerance some of you hold. He has his personal beliefs but isn't going round trying to cancel anyone because of their sexuality, he is just following his religious convictions.

If you want be adult about tolerance, and supporting freedom of conscience to all, you might want to support other people’s rights such as Gueye,'s right to not promote a cause that runs contrary to his religious beliefs. That is all that he has done.

Great player - one man wall.

 

[Martin Alvito]

For all the "keep politics out of sports" shouts too, we're a football club that is literally on the ropes because of politics.

We've lost our main source of funding because of an illegal invasion of a country. We're playing a Match for Peace tomorrow night against Dynamo Kyiv after multiple shows of solidarity with the Ukrainian people during a time of POLITICAL unrest and violence.

Everything is inherently political, and that's why this matters.

He is also 33 in the near future and not exactly the type of player we need. Move on from 2016, and some of you, 1816.

I agree that everything has become inherently political. I am old enough to remember when the only relevant such axis was East/West.

I regret the fact that those who thought the end of that whole mess was an opportunity to transcend that sort of thing turned out to be wrong.

 

[ToffeeDevil]

gueye has real world consequences, since his family lives in a place where being gay can get you killed. yeah, him wearing it means nothing about him personally, but have you tried seeing things from his side? the ridicule they'd get and drama it could be why he passed and why he hasn't commented on it.

i am on the side that wishes he just wore it, but totally understand implications

 

[Blast_of_Cannock]

WTF is actually going on.

People fuming about a player we aren't signing. The usual...

 

[PhilRegan]

Our defence needs all the protection it can get 100% yes from me , couple of Barry type years out of him

 

[Connor]

I agree.

Hang on is this the Barkley or Gana thread?

Welcome back, Mick

Wire, Wire, Wire

 

[Blast_of_Cannock]

Generally speaking that's a big part of being a professional footballer. Get's a bit confusing not wearing a specific costume unless you're playing shirts and skins. There is a demand to wear logos of alcoholic products, gambling firms and firms who practice exploitative financial products.

If a footballer refuses to play a match because there is pro LGBTQ+ on the back then fair enough. For me that's a clear lack of commitment to the club, their teammates, the supporters and a firm acknowledgement that they are all less important than that players homophobia, or alternatively, that player's massive crippling anxiety about wearing something they deem emasculating. An exclusively religious reason is demonstrably false given the players past acceptance and choice to move to a club wearing logos or symbols that are clearly Haram.

Either way for me it's a shirking of responsibility as a player and lack of commitment to the club that I'd prefer not to see encouraged.

It in no way equates to "gays being forced to wear Christian costumes in Senegal".

The question I need answering is what is a Christian costume? Is it a big hat like the Pope? Or even a Batman costume like the one Bale wore in Batman Begins?

 

[Professor Toffee]

The question I need answering is what is a Christian costume? Is it a big hat like the Pope? Or even a Batman costume like the one Bale wore in Batman Begins?

Does Gareth Bale's costume have a top knot?

 

[Blast_of_Cannock]

He's contracted to play football; I don't want a player who picks and chooses when he plays.

We've already got loads of players who only play when they can be arsed as it is.

 

[Martin Alvito]

Does Gareth Bale's costume have a top knot?

If you're trying to wear a Gareth Bale costume, I think it's obligatory.

 

[Blast_of_Cannock]

Does Gareth Bale's costume have a top knot?

Comes with a golf club as well.

 

[Paul Rideout]

The question I need answering is what is a Christian costume? Is it a big hat like the Pope? Or even a Batman costume like the one Bale wore in Batman Begins?

must also wear the cross or you just look like a man that has a nappy fetish

 

[Blast_of_Cannock]

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must also wear the cross or you just look like a man that has a nappy fetish

"I'M BRIAN! AND SO IS MY WIFE!

 

[ChesterBlue]

I think people misunderstand freedom of expression here. Evidently he was free to express himself, even at the cost of his club and team mates because of the fact that he chose to express his view that he does not like gay people (seen as he happily wore Chang on his shirt at Everton, and if he returned he would wear Stake, and as far as I’m aware both gambling and alcohol consumption are haram)

The flip side is, society is also free to express that someone refusing to do their job because they don’t like gay people is a pretty grim way to behave