Is it worth being brainwashed

[jazzy]

Roman emperors made sure to give the poor food and entertainment to keep them busy and happy. "Give them bread and circuses and they will never revolt."

It was the same with the French. "Let them eat cake and watch guillotines"

 

[jazzy]

I have a degree and I can't read this

Appreciate that I'm in my 60s but can't believe that our educational system is so bad that they send people to Uni to read and write.

 

[Toffeeforme]

I kind of agree but wonder if you might have a different perspective if ( I know suspend belief) Everton were in the top 4 having spent a fortune on players?

Very valid point. My answer is yes. Again we could go on all night about how much players earn when most of the fans are going home to cold houses.

 

[Zeitgeist]

Appreciate that I'm in my 60s but can't believe that our educational system is so bad that they send people to Uni to read and write.

Will file this one as went over your head

 

[Neiler]

A lot of cons in football, international football is gone it’s corrupt, PL is heading the same way, you only have to look at the injury time at City and the ESL etc.

Tell you what else is a con, this idea of sellling your best players, reinvesting to improve, it’s a smoke screen and never happens for us..sell Lukaku, get worse, sell Stones get worse, sell Richarlison get worse, owners have done a number on fans here.

When Johnson did the like we revolted and forced him out, these days fans clap off ”good deals” for our good players to what used to be our rivals and we never improve. Monetising the game has made it less about sport and there are loads of cons in it, often fans are complicit.

 

[dholliday]

This thread's probably a better fit for my below comment. In short, no...it's not worth it right now.

it really does...ever since the later Martinez-era where the football was dead weird, and his crazed optimism began to really grind my gears. Then the useless (even damaging) money injection, and subsequent managerial merry-go-round, during which we thought it couldn't possibly be worse than the Allardyce period.

But it just keeps getting worse...and most damning of all: it's just become plain boring to follow us. We rarely get any outstanding one-off games. The footie is consistently bad, results are poor, derbies are almost always catastrophic, the good players leave....rinse & repeat. We often see posts here like "why do i do this to myself?"

Well, I just don't now.


Hence why i'm taking a break from caring, or even following. I couldn't name half of the current 11 right now. Been a regular fan since 1989, with only a little blip during the tedious Walter Smith era. But this current blip feels far more significant as i've also fallen out of love with the game itself: the money, corruption, lack of loyalty, lack of passion and even lack of identity is almost everywhere in mainstream club football.

International footie has also lost its sparkle: everything about the Qatar World Cup, and the FIFA Chief's reaction to criticisms of it (worker treatment etc) made me boycott the whole thing. Didn't watch a single minute. This coming from someone who's watched every entire tournament since 1990 (plus physically been to a couple of them).


Something about not just Everton, but football generally, has gone off. The bubble's not burst, it's gone mouldy. Still evidently edible...but not for me.


These days i prefer to spend my 'free time' following cultural things like music, film, gaming, books, tech stuff...it's not glorious like the best days of following Everton can be, but neither does it feel like a frustrating waste of my time. And nowadays being a middle-aged Dad with too-many-hobbies as it is, letting go of football is easy.

 

[Moomin]

This thread's probably a better fit for my below comment. In short, no...it's not worth it right now.

Oh hello.

Want to respond to defending the likes of Tate and Kanye?

 

[dholliday]

Oh hello.

Want to respond to defending the likes of Tate and Kanye?

off-topic, mooms.

i don't remember defending them. you can quote any relevant post i made in the correct thread. if i'm not banned i'll reply x

 

[matty1878]

He said brain washed not brain dead.

lol

 

[Colonel Getafe]

He's Walken...

...in a winter wonderland.

It's, you know, crazy.

 

[Colonel Getafe]

It was the same with the French. "Let them eat cake and watch guillotines"

I hope they weren't dyslexic. Imagine trying to eat a guillotine whilst watching a fondant fancy. Nightmare.

 

[Moomin]

off-topic, mooms.

i don't remember defending them. you can quote any relevant post i made in the correct thread. if i'm not banned i'll reply x

All in the CA forum your defence of Tate and Kanye's attack on BLM.

Hope you had a good holiday break.

 

[SerenityNigh]

Every two or four years we get a glimpse of something less materialistic - and it seems strangely attractive, even if the overall standard is vastly inferior.

Mate, if you're suggesting the WC is less materialistic than the domestic leagues, get some fresh air.

 

[SerenityNigh]

I have a degree and I can't read this

there might be some correlation here... maybe I should leave before I hurt someone's feelings

 

[Drico]

Mate, if you're suggesting the WC is less materialistic than the domestic leagues, get some fresh air.

It clearly is for the players. Their match "fee" is mainly incidental compared to their club salaries. There are other benefits of course (shop window, bonuses for victory, etc.), but there's no comparison overall. On top of that, national teams cannot buy and sell like club sides, so imperfection makes for greater competition and countries can't buy success in anything like the same way. Great players have to do it when surrounded by lesser players than they would be at their clubs. It makes for a more organic experience on the pitch. Off it is another story entirely...