Is Premier League Boring?

The BBC chairman, today, wants to reduce the highlights on MOTD and replace with more punditry...
I read this recently, too. What a dreadful state of affairs. Let's see less actual football and more idiotic and self-important chatter about the football. As if the football itself is a prelude to the real "entertainment" of two or three middle aged dimwits giving terrible takes about how amazing the thing we're seeing less of was. It's like kids watching grown men talking on YouTube about the video games they're playing rather than just playing the video games and enjoying them.

Maybe I'm just really old now but to me the ranking of enjoyment in football is as follows:

Playing football
Watching the football in the stadium
Watching a full match on TV
Watching highlights on TV
















Watching Micah Richards and "Carra" talk about the football they just watched.
 

Think they have milked it to the max over the last few years.

Not watched a champions league game in years.

If Everton was competing for the league it would be the greatest season ever.
 
Think they have milked it to the max over the last few years.

Not watched a champions league game in years.

If Everton was competing for the league it would be the greatest season ever.
I agree - it’s well past saturation point for me and now I only ever watch Everton games

Too much football
 
I definitely feel like every team tries to play similarly now. It absolutely is boring.
I think PSR has gutted the league of quality, too. Teams like Wolves, Palace and West Ham were forced to sell some of their best talents suddenly or risk deductions like we had.
 
Agree and disagree, I don't think Premier League was perfect 15 years ago, but it was more interesting. It's why RS have been able to easily win title, similar to Moyes attitude when we went to Anfield managers just take view I'll focus on this game, who cares if we lose to Liverpool. Before Guardiola and Klopp came along, you didn't get teams winning ridiculous amount of games in a row. Those 2 have played huge role in ruining Premier League.
Like I say, I think it's just rose coloured glasses personally. 15 years ago Chelsea won the league having won 17 (and drawn one, with us) of their 19 home games and won 13 games - more than 1 in 3 - by 3 or more goals. It doesn't sound more interesting/even when you put it like that does it?
 

Yeah, I agree.
It's way too sanitized. A few years ago I travelled around Argentina and Chile. Caught a good few games. Some were awful with small crowds in huge concrete stadiums but most were great fun and some were insane!
It cost hardly anything to get in, standing, great atmosphere, no frills.

On a side, the last few PL games I've gotten to have had a weird coke fuelled agro buzz. Not fun at all (maybe I'm getting old)
Check out your local non-league club, it's a lot of fun. No VAR, very little diving, very little hassling of the ref (and if they do it's 10 mins in the sin bin), and, if it's National League North or below, you can drink a beer in your seat. The footie isn't as bad a standard as many people think either. Great family atmosphere, no coked up "get the badge in" weirdos and there's a load of cup competitions too so you might actually see someone lift a trophy!
 
Last good games of football I've watched were probably PSG v RS. Not that long ago but honestly only games that spring to mind this season. Premier league is an awful standard. Is it the players or the way managers have them playing I'm not sure but it's dreadful. Need to do something, zero points for a nil nil draw or something ha!
 
Check out your local non-league club, it's a lot of fun. No VAR, very little diving, very little hassling of the ref (and if they do it's 10 mins in the sin bin), and, if it's National League North or below, you can drink a beer in your seat. The footie isn't as bad a standard as many people think either. Great family atmosphere, no coked up "get the badge in" weirdos and there's a load of cup competitions too so you might actually see someone lift a trophy!
yup, that's what I was saying about the league of Ireland above. Prob the same standard as League 2.

All that said,
You could have MLS which is absolutely shocking.
Take all the fun bits out of football and MLS is whats left.
 

TBH i cant even muster up being too bothered about Liverpool winning the league maybe after the past few seasons we,ve had im just concentrating on us.

Yeah the league is rotten its a super league in itself, when you consider Burnley, Bournemouth have bigger income than AC Milan etc its crazy how big this league has become.

The only positive is the "middle class" have improved, but as Newcastle and Villa have shown PSR just kills of any momentum if your building.

Ticket prices are crazy, influence fans filming all game are a thing, its a day out now which the cubs want and if we don't go, then they'll just take the game to Asia, states or the Middle east.

Chances are in this climate we wont win anything for a another 20-30 years bar a league cup (which would be a miracle) and is that enough to sustain our interest.

I genuinely believe our new stadium could kill a lot of interest in the older crowd used to Goodison and what it meant to their social life/routine.
 
I definitely feel like every team tries to play similarly now. It absolutely is boring.
I think PSR has gutted the league of quality, too. Teams like Wolves, Palace and West Ham were forced to sell some of their best talents suddenly or risk deductions like we had.
Wimbledon or Watford in the 80s showed you could play a different way and be successful. But it's much harder to do that now when nearly all of your players are relatively cultured continental types anyway - just not as good as those lining out for City and Arsenal.
 
yup, that's what I was saying about the league of Ireland above. Prob the same standard as League 2.

All that said,
You could have MLS which is absolutely shocking.
Take all the fun bits out of football and MLS is whats left.
An MLS on steroids is what we're looking at for the PL, I fear. A sterile, expensive, joyless dirge.
 
I read this recently, too. What a dreadful state of affairs. Let's see less actual football and more idiotic and self-important chatter about the football. As if the football itself is a prelude to the real "entertainment" of two or three middle aged dimwits giving terrible takes about how amazing the thing we're seeing less of was. It's like kids watching grown men talking on YouTube about the video games they're playing rather than just playing the video games and enjoying them.

Maybe I'm just really old now but to me the ranking of enjoyment in football is as follows:

Playing football
Watching the football in the stadium
Watching a full match on TV
Watching highlights on TV
















Watching Micah Richards and "Carra" talk about the football they just watched.
There's a reason he's talking about doing that though. The point is that people used to watch Match of the Day to see the goals because that was the first opportunity to do so. These days you can see all the goals on your phone before you've even got home from the match, then watch whatever highlights you want and/or another live match on TV when you get in. What he's talking about is trying to make MOTD relevant in some way by offering something that the other things don't. Whether it's a good idea or will work is a different point, but it's not just a bizarre thought he's had, it's based on a change in the way media is consumed. That change covers much of what is a repeated theme on here too - 'I used to watch loads of matches 20 years ago but now I don't' isn't evidence of anything. You've changed, the world has changed, what is available to you and when has changed.
 

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