If only you'd have watched him play many, many times for Wigan, you'd have known this eh?
Nope, as he was overrun at Wigan and it was hit and miss whether he'd be able to make the step up to a quality team. I watched him at Wigan quite a few times and there was no way of guessing he'd be quite as good as he has been. I thought he'd be a decent squad player but not as key as he has been.