James McCarthy

[Groucho]

Looks like he's off lads. What's Martinez doing?!

This is a fake account, and very misleading.

This isn't real.

 

[Prevenger17]

This is a fake account.

Gadzooks, I've been well and truly had!

 

[Groucho]

Gadzooks, I've been well and truly had!

If there's one thing worse than a twitter rumour, it's fake twitter rumour.

 

[SpurtingLesbian]

Cleverley was not signed on a free transfer - he was out of contract at Manchester United.

Everton, instead of paying a transfer fee to Manchester United, will be paying Cleverley a similar sum as part of his wages throughout his contract here.

That's the way the Bosman ruling works. So Cleverley will be getting much more per week than McCarthy, and so will Barry.

utter bilge.
They will be paying Cleveley a hefty Signing-on fee, but still nowhere near what it wuld have cost if he were under contract.
To say it is added to his wages is ridiculous, that would mean a wage caps for 'bought' players and a no cap whatsoever for players who are out of contract as it would depend on their estimated market transfer value which is pretty impossible to calculate as it depends on the length of the contract left.
He will have got a million or two signing on fee (much less than the £8M Villa wanted to pay ManU for him whilst in contract) and a wage roughly that of our other 'starting' midfielders (discounting McCarthy from that as he's currently on half of that hence his complaints)

 

[flibbyflob]

If we can get contracts sorted out for Cleverley, and whoever else we bring in, then surely it's not too much of a leap to sort the McCarthy contract.

I am sure we will, at least we know if he isn't an Everton player next season we will have got a bloody good fee for him as he isn't going cheap if he does go.

Expect all this to get sorted once the internationals are out of the way or once he is back off his holiday.

 

[Stanley Parker]

utter bilge.

Although there is no transfer fee, there are, as you say, other financial factors to take into account when signing a player like Cleverley. So it is simply not true to call it a free transfer, and say that the club has nothing to lose.

Whatever the agreed salary is, the club will be committed to paying it for the length of the contract, or until the player leaves. £60,000 a week comes to more than £3 million a year. Over five years, it comes to more than £15 million. And at the end of it, there will be a loyalty bonus.

There will be a signing-on fee and very likely a fee split over a couple of years. There can be bonuses for appearances, cup success and qualification for Europe.

Then there may be bonuses for goalscoring and clean sheets, international bonuses and award bonuses. A player can keep his image rights and the club will pay him for the use of his image.

Of course, there will also be a fee for the agent who negotiates the signing. So the club does have to commit a great deal of money to sign a player out of contract.

 

[Charlie Sweet]

McCarthy is our best player at the moment. We've got to base a team around him in my opinion.

 

[kithnou]

Looks like he's off lads. What's Martinez doing?!

Selling him for overs and getting someone better in maybe after the Cleverley signing?
Something like 10 mill plus Lennon for McCarthy maybe?

 

[kithnou]

Banned from another thread then @Prevenger17?

 

[The Equaliser]

Banned from another thread then @Prevenger17?

Is he ?

LOL

 

[kithnou]

Is he ?

LOL

Not sure...just assumed. Will find out soon enough.

 

[Moomin]

Another day passes and it's radio silence from McCarthy.

Traitor.

 

[Stanley Parker]

Selling him for overs and getting someone better in maybe after the Cleverley signing?
Something like 10 mill plus Lennon for McCarthy maybe?

The problem over signing Lennon is apparently not his transfer fee but something much bigger, the size of his wages.

In that case, the level of wages at Spurs must be a real attraction for McCarthy.

 

[Charlie Sweet]

Selling him for overs and getting someone better in maybe after the Cleverley signing?
Something like 10 mill plus Lennon for McCarthy maybe?

Are you mad?

 

[Toffee-nerd]

Although there is no transfer fee, there are, as you say, other financial factors to take into account when signing a player like Cleverley. So it is simply not true to call it a free transfer, and say that the club has nothing to lose.

Whatever the agreed salary is, the club will be committed to paying it for the length of the contract, or until the player leaves. £60,000 a week comes to more than £3 million a year. Over five years, it comes to more than £15 million. And at the end of it, there will be a loyalty bonus.

There will be a signing-on fee and very likely a fee split over a couple of years. There can be bonuses for appearances, cup success and qualification for Europe.

Then there may be bonuses for goalscoring and clean sheets, international bonuses and award bonuses. A player can keep his image rights and the club will pay him for the use of his image.

Of course, there will also be a fee for the agent who negotiates the signing. So the club does have to commit a great deal of money to sign a player out of contract.

I never said it would cost us nothing I said it was a free transfer. Which it is. We don't pay any transfer fee to another club for him, villa were apparently going to pay 8million for him. They'd still have to pay his wages, signing on fee and agents fees too so I'm not really sure what you are trying to say.