Carlito
Player Valuation: £40m
I'd say he's definitely a better defender and athlete than Stones was, but not as good on the ball.
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2023/24 Jarrad Branthwaite
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They'll be the starting pair in our 'what could have been XI' threads for years to come.
Branthwaite, is twice the player Stones is in my opinion. I think Brathwaite is a generational talent.
I dont think Stones really turned into the player i though he would, injuries haven't helped.
I dont think Stones really turned into the player i though he would, injuries haven't helped.
BigDunc'sFod
Player Valuation: £35m
Just get rid of Ake who's absolute pony
Curtis
Player Valuation: £35m
I agree completely I feel that branthwaite is more of the finished product then stones when he was at everton along with the fact Branthwaite has seemed to sussed out his impetuous errors that most young players exhibit. He just appears more composed and savvier defensively than stones as well. He's also demonstrated he can be an offensive threat and is very skilled on the ball for his age and being a cb
Kevsleftpeg
Player Valuation: £8m
Stones has been for the most part a mainstay in a City team that has dominated the league and won the Champions League. He's been injured a bit but at various times this year the pundits have been absolutely raving about his ability to step into midfield and dictate play. He isn't Beckenbauer but I can't think of any centre backs who are better on the ball than he is. Just what else did you expect from him?
Raino85
Player Valuation: £40m
He gets so much disrespect John Stones considering what he has won in the game! ( I think mainly its down to prolonged spells out due to injury and Guardiola's tendency to rotate or manage Stones' fitness). Turns up in every big game City play though, Champions League semi finals etc.
71 Caps for England too, a mainstay in the side in Englands best spell since actually winning anything!
Compare that to players deemed as PL legends such as Ferdinand etc and he's achieved more than them, but as these players are pundits now they dont paint him in the same league
I dont think hes been a main stay at all, he took a couple of years to establish himself there and definitely went through periods where he has been out of the team because he wasn't trusted, hes had his problems with injury of course and its a high bar admittedly at CIty and Pep likes Hybrid players - which has worked for him.
Im always amazed when people think stepping out into midfield in new for him - he was doing it here. I actually think hes a bit late to the party at it at City, with his ability he should have been doing it more and for a longer time ago. I actually think he is a better deep lying midfielder then he is a centre half (thought that when he was here) - hes an average but competent defender - but his skills are ball at feet - that makes him different and a type of hybrid player Pep aims for.
But hybrid or inverted defender thing isnt new, in fact most modern systems are developing toward it and i think people are just noticing it more - even Mordor are playing TAA as a deep lying playmaker.
Im not necessarily criticing Stones, i just thought when he left here he had a higher ceiling in terms of impact and performance to become a real leader and a great player - hes a very good player. People will talk about what hes won - but i dont mush integrity or worth on Citys trophies personally - ive given my reasons a lot on here as to why.
I think Brantnthwaite is better. Hes twice the defender and equally as composed with ball at feet and his technique and vision are excellent, i think hes a more impactful player on the game. Hes a generational talent.
The Hibbert Agenda
Player Valuation: £20m
He has such a low profile for such a successful English player. No real social media, no ads or endorsements, quietly racked up club trophies and international caps with only a little bit of fan fair.
the golden visionary
Player Valuation: £35m
The reported fee is ajoke
Stones is the most unique CB in football for me, the closest thing we have in a long time to that old school sweeper who could do everything. Wonderful footballer
Why you believing the Daily Mail
hallamblue
Player Valuation: £40m
They quote the lowest possible fee when we sell, the highest possible fee when we buy, and the reverse for the rs.
Take it with a very large pinch of salt. Worth less than slabby Maguire, no chance! They just probably cant afford him due them being constrained by FFP, next offer please..
If we let him go for the sort of money the papers are talking about we deserve to be bankrupt. Luckily the papers are full of BS.
the golden visionary
Player Valuation: £35m
I don't read the mail.
In the most recent past the only English centre half to come close to Stones is Rio Ferdinand ( imo )
And look what Rio cost all those many years ago.
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