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2020/21 JonJoe Kenny

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We seem to sell at a loss - sign players on long contracts on high wages that's what Carlos has inherited sadly all since we appointed a DOF ...
We all know that happens with the likes of Bolasie, Tosun etc yes. They were poor signings, nobody is going to argue with that. But that has nothing to do with the price we get for Kenny. As a player he has a value to Everton of literally zero. Ancelotti is not going to pick him, he's at best 3rd choice right back, possibly as low as 5th choice. He's an academy graduate so has no book value. So his value as an asset is totally dependent on what somebody is willing to pay for him. If he's 'worth' £15m then somebody will offer us £15m for him. Word is that Burnley are going to get him for £7m, so as soon Real Madrid hear that they're going to say no way we can let such a terrific athlete go at that price, here's £8m, and so on. If the most anyone is willing to bid is £7m, and we're willing to accept £7m then he's worth... £7m.
 
We all know that happens with the likes of Bolasie, Tosun etc yes. They were poor signings, nobody is going to argue with that. But that has nothing to do with the price we get for Kenny. As a player he has a value to Everton of literally zero. Ancelotti is not going to pick him, he's at best 3rd choice right back, possibly as low as 5th choice. So his value as an asset is totally dependent on what somebody is willing to pay for him. If he's 'worth' £15m then somebody will offer us £15m for him. Word is that Burnley are going to get him for £7m, so as soon Real Madrid hear that they're going to say no way we can let such a terrific athlete go at that price, here's £8m, and so on. If the most anyone is willing to bid is £7m, and we're willing to accept £7m then he's worth... £7m.
So your saying that if we go to Burnley and say "Liverpool got 20m for Jordan Ibe, we want 20m", your saying that WONT work?

I'm SHOOK.
 
We all know that happens with the likes of Bolasie, Tosun etc yes. They were poor signings, nobody is going to argue with that. But that has nothing to do with the price we get for Kenny. As a player he has a value to Everton of literally zero. Ancelotti is not going to pick him, he's at best 3rd choice right back, possibly as low as 5th choice. He's an academy graduate so has no book value. So his value as an asset is totally dependent on what somebody is willing to pay for him. If he's 'worth' £15m then somebody will offer us £15m for him. Word is that Burnley are going to get him for £7m, so as soon Real Madrid hear that they're going to say no way we can let such a terrific athlete go at that price, here's £8m, and so on. If the most anyone is willing to bid is £7m, and we're willing to accept £7m then he's worth... £7m.
He's not our 3rd choice rightback - he has hardly played......Coleman has ... If Coleman was going for 7 million another poster he thinks that's ok ..your analysis has been done on not seeing a player given a fun in the team the same fate of other players we have sold cheaply .......
I would not argue if Coleman was being sold either as great as been he is in his last possible season with us ..
My point in general is we panic sell ..
 

He's not our 3rd choice rightback - he has hardly played......Coleman has ... If Coleman was going for 7 million he thinks that's ok ..your analysis has been done on not seeing a player given a fun in the team the same fate of other players we have sold cheaply .......
Joey you used Robinson as an example earlier on.

Hes not good enough for us, if he stayed here he wouldn't have helped us.

Neither will JJK, he might well go off somewhere and be a decent RB for somebody else, but hes not good enough for us.
 
He's not our 3rd choice rightback - he has hardly played......Coleman has ... If Coleman was going for 7 million he thinks that's ok ..your analysis has been done on not seeing a player given a fun in the team the same fate of other players we have sold cheaply .......
Yes Joey. Has it occurred to you that the reason he hasn't played is, in fact, because he's our third choice right back?
 

You the manager now, he has been coming back from injury .....just sell the players unproven in the prem ......
You're an absolute loon. If he's actually our first choice right back and Ancelotti is just using a cunning ruse to make it look like he'd rather play with 7 men and bring Tony Hibbert out of retirement before picking Kenny then you have nothing to worry about, we certainly won't be selling him for £7m. If he is our (at best) third choice right back and we are happy to sell him for £7m then you are obviously wrong. I'm not sure why you're trying to simultaneously argue two contrary points of view.
 
We’re not going to get much more than 7 mil for a right back who is behind Coleman and an out of position Holgate for a club not in Europe. I don’t see an issue selling for 7-10 mil, helps us helps his career and helps Burnley. Thought he was going to be sound for us when he was first choice for England u21, but he’s 24 in 2 months and can’t get a game ahead of Coleman whose more or less finished
 
We’re not going to get much more than 7 mil for a right back who is behind Coleman and an out of position Holgate for a club not in Europe. I don’t see an issue selling for 7-10 mil, helps us helps his career and helps Burnley. Thought he was going to be sound for us when he was first choice for England u21, but he’s 24 in 2 months and can’t get a game ahead of Coleman whose more or less finished
List how many games he's had this season then?
 
In my opinion we need 2 new right backs. 1 in 1 out this window. Then 1 in 1 out in the summer. Either way he needs to be gone. I had hopes that he might have at least been good enough to be back up but he can't even get a game ahead of an over the hill Coleman and out of position Holgate.
 
In my opinion we need 2 new right backs. 1 in 1 out this window. Then 1 in 1 out in the summer. Either way he needs to be gone. I had hopes that he might have at least been good enough to be back up but he can't even get a game ahead of an over the hill Coleman and out of position Holgate.
I don't think we need 2.

Coleman, Holgate or even Godfrey can play RB.

We defo need 1, for sure, but buying 2 would be a bit overkill.
 

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