2020/21 Jordan Pickford

[blue to the bone]

This decision has caused them to explode again . Brilliant for a wet monday to watch them fume

 

[matty1878]

"YOUS DON'T EVEN GO THE GAME LADS" - You realise that we are ALL armchair fans at the moment, mate, yeah?

Also, you are telling me that Jordan Pickford has done NOTHING wrong? The Jordan Pickford that has made more errors leading to goals than anyone since the start of last season? Has done nothing wrong?

If he had done what he did in the derby, in any other game, you'd be frothing at the mush, but as it is you've turned into some chest-thumping supporter of his actions?

I support Pickford because he's our player, but in this instance my support extends to hoping he can rediscover some kind of form and common sense while he sits on the bench for a bit.

what wham are you chatting lad

 

[Azza]

It's almost as if the press have no idea what the rules are for retrospectively looking at incidents in matches.

 

[ValBlue]

Very true he hasn’t cost us points so far and in places, has made some very important stops. However, I seriously seriously question his headspace. Not just because of the VVD incident but everything that happened with England etc. He doesn’t inspire confidence at the minute and despite not costing points yet - he’s cost us soft goals and had to be bailed out by DLC and co. Being dropped to clear his head and take him out the firing line needs to be considered. None of that comes from the ‘Pickford hate agenda’, it just seems to be a good option right now. Not a punishment, just a rest for him

 

[ArtetaMagic]

Danny Murphy on Talksport perplexed haha Imagine thats the state he's spent most of his life in the divvy.

Did you hear him on motd2 last night? VVD the best centre half of all time ...

 

[GrandOldTeam]

To even paper over all the mistakes he's made this season with that kind of retort is madness. He didn't make any mistakes? He made a fair few that on another day costs us points.

If.

But.

Maybe.

Facts remain mate, he hasn't cost us a single point this season.

He is also the current MOTM in the last game in the thread on here.

He's currently being carried by the rest of the team - if he continues to make mistakes at the current frequency it will hurt us. I understand defending him but to play oblivious to his clear faults and rashness is baffling.

To play oblivious and talk up if, buts and maybes, because of this;

Yikes.

A few here really don't like him, do they? lol

is what's truly baffling mate.

He did well in the derby, very well. Brilliant save to keep us in it and I'm not having the BUT WORRA BOUT IF THEY WEREN'T OFFSIDE crap.

 

[d34noj]

People who are claiming that wasnt a bad challenge are similar to the blinkered RS fans.

It was a bad challenge but part of football. Like the Dunk one yesterday he should have seen red.

The fallout and slanderous accusations thrown at him since by ex pros and the media is disgraceful. All because the recepient was a Liverpool player. I noticed Ryan Mason and Curtis Woodhouse have both deleted tweets since.

Both reds? I know Curtis Woodhouse is

 

[maccavennie]

Just to confirm what above said lol

No surprise, I'd have been bloody fuming if he'd been given a retrospective ban.

He's just gotta keep his head down, work hard and come up with the goods on Sunday and not give the knobhead press any ammunition to hammer him with.

 

[NilSatisOptimum]

He's also sent out multiple messages that he will be crap at trying to save shots, so that kind of undermines him as a goalkeeper. This isn't ice hockey, mate.

Their is job for you here!

https://careers.sky.com/

 

[marnie]

If.

But.

Maybe.

Facts remain mate, he hasn't cost us a single point this season.

He is also the current MOTM in the last game in the thread on here.



To play oblivious and talk up if, buts and maybes, because of this;



is what's truly baffling mate.

He did well in the derby, very well. Brilliant save to keep us in it and I'm not having the BUT WORRA BOUT IF THEY WEREN'T OFFSIDE crap.

He is the current MOTM in our poll lol Since when have any of us on here had any clue about football lol lol lol

 

[Toffe3m4n]

What has been particularly eye-opening from all this fallout is just how many pundits and football journalists don't actually know the rules of football.

No one can possibly dispute the fact that it was a wild and reckless lunge that deserved a red card, but they couldn't send him off because the ball was not in play and it was not an act of Violent Conduct where the laws of the game do allow a referee to send a player off when the game is dead.

So Pickford survived because of a technicality, but a very important technicality. It's why referees have no decision to make if a player was to deliberately bring down an attacker who's clean through on goal if they were offside. If the player was onside then yes, clear professional foul and a red card, but because he was offside the entire action in void.

It's just incredibly basic stuff. I saw an article by Martin Samuel yesterday and he actually said that Pickford could have still been sent off and actually used Slaven Bilic getting sent off at half time against us as evidence for it. In what possible way is a manager getting sent off for abusing a referee and Pickford making an honest attempt at blocking a ball that had an unfortunate consequence the same thing?

And a further point, and possibly most dementing of all, is that we have just witnessed a biased Liverpool media campaign to get Pickford retrospectively banned. Make no mistake, the FA were not looking at this incident in any way shape or form. They wouldn't have had a leg to stand on (excuse the pun) to ban Pickford retrospectively under any single law of the game. Despite that though, we've seen comparisons to Roy Keane's challenge on Haaland, pundits describing it as an 'assault' and all the rest of it. They have tried to pressure the FA to get one or our players banned without proper cause, make absolutely no mistake about that.

It's truly disgraceful how infested the media is with them.

Absolutely blob on mate.

I'm as a big a football fan as any.. but jesus christ you'd honestly think that life wouldn't be able to move on unless 'justice is served' against a goalkeeper in a sport as if it's this huge matter of public interest or something. Staggering.

 

[Exeter_Gently]

Danny Murphy on Talksport perplexed haha Imagine thats the state he's spent most of his life in the divvy.

ET looking little turnip.

 

[Barnfred 55]

I agree with those who think a retrospective ban is our best way out of this.

I think he does need time on the bench, but getting him onto the bench without shattering his confidence is easier said than done.

A ban would help us out there. Then, if Olsen did okay it'd be on Pickford to unseat him.

But a ban for Pickford would mean that the FA have bowed to red media pressure, and I don't want that.

The definitive Catch 22

 

[Jebus_lives]

If.

But.

Maybe.

Facts remain mate, he hasn't cost us a single point this season.

He is also the current MOTM in the last game in the thread on here.



To play oblivious and talk up if, buts and maybes, because of this;



is what's truly baffling mate.

He did well in the derby, very well. Brilliant save to keep us in it and I'm not having the BUT WORRA BOUT IF THEY WEREN'T OFFSIDE crap.

Always seems a question of concentration and mental discipline.

He's a good keeper when his blood is up and he's having to react, but not when there is very little going on.

Personally I'd like to see him do some work with some cricket openers (Cook, Langer) to give him guides as to how to concentrate and wait for the right moment.

 

[sd_1992]

If Olsen played Saturday we'd have lost the game. IMO

So I'm glad he played. I would take him out for the next game though.

If the ref hadn’t ballsed up and sent Pickford off then Olsen would have played most of the game anyway...