Blue Truth
Player Valuation: £25m
There's not a team in the league that we can beat on our day, the challenge is consistency.
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let's be honest though mate, mostly from Moyes it was getting 40 points first and then saying a top 8 or 10 finish would be a success. True we were playing some good stuff early last season and gave away stupid last minute goals, but I never got the impression Moyes really believed we could do it. He is saying the same thing at Utd now, only this time its the CL. It sends a terrible message. I'd rather fail by being overly positve and really going for it believing that we are great, than failing and not really trying because the manager and players don't believe it can happen
EFC Si
Player Valuation: £25m
If we were fairly close to getting it last year when our team was significantly worse I would say, then surely our chances can only improve this season.
I don't like it.
We laugh at the RS for this type of rubbish.
Keeping winning, keep driving on, in the dressing room believe, but told tell the rags.
We laugh at the RS for this type of rubbish.
Keeping winning, keep driving on, in the dressing room believe, but told tell the rags.
ncblue
Player Valuation: £6m
agree.
davek
Player Valuation: £150m
I'm not arguing with you on Martinez. I think he's a breathe of fresh air and he's had my support since arriving. But it's a fantasy to believe he can take essentially the same group of players as last season and break through the PL cartel in his first season in charge.
Get excited/positive by all means, but let's retain a bit of realism as well.
And as i said, i'm sure you thought it was absurd that we'd finish 4th in 2004/05.
I don't think it's crazy to say we could finish 4th.
Baines' left foot
Player Valuation: £90m
Exactly.
I do have a good pop at some of the negativity on here but in fairness a good proportion of it is probably down to Moyes playing down expectations, Mars bar to a Pokemon battle and all that.
davek
Player Valuation: £150m
The PL of 2004/05 was a different beast to this one. Then, if you had one elite club have an off season you stood a chance; now you have to have about three squads to falter.
johnnydawg68
Chairperson, People's Front of Saint Domingo
It's not really the same set of players though is it? Lukaku, Barry, McCarthy, and a Barkley that actually plays is a fair bit different.
davek
Player Valuation: £150m
But he'll be playing about 16 to 18 players from this squad this season. the newcomers are a minority.
He needs a lot more time, Martinez. Unreal expectations are going to hinder progress. I've seen enough to know this feller has what it takes. But he needs his own players in and time to experiment...which inevitably means getting things wrong as well as right.
There's no short cuts in this league.
It's more or less the same set of players plus several exciting additions and a more positive and seemingly tactically astute manager.
And the simple truth is we should have finished much closer to a CL spot last season as off the top of my head negativity cost us a at least mine points...... at Reading, at Fulham and home and away to Norwich where winning positions in games we had dominated were squandered.
Sod all of that.
EFC have a very realistic chance of making the CL spots this year.
The manager bleieves it.
The players believe it.
The fans need to believe it.
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