BoysInBlue
Player Valuation: £50m
A lot of people value our club having a soul. And yes, we all want to win trophies too.
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A lot of people value our club having a soul. And yes, we all want to win trophies too.
Probably just because Wolves sound like an American team.
"Let's see who's for sale... Stone Villa, err Aston Villa..."
"Any relation to Aston Martin? I used to drive off of those..."
"There's Everton..."
"Every town?"
"What the hell is an Everton?"
"Dunno, what about Wolves?"
"I like Wolves, how much for the pair?"
Mark Cuban, Paul Allen. Someone get on the twitters and let them know Everton are for sale.
BoysInBlue
Player Valuation: £50m
How are they 'looking more and more a bad thing'?
I know people have different opinions, but some people aren't half spouting stuff that doesn't have any grounding in reality or facts to back up the scaremongering.
Growing every business they've ever owned, making tangible progress, and achieving success is what these fellas have achieved. Unlike the current EFC custodians. E.g. our 2nd largest shareholder has been bankrupt twice! Hardly the sharpest business brain. And some people wonder we've had 3 failed stadium moves when this is the calibre of our board members.
Being sniffy about the Americans is like having no money, but turning your nose up at a £20 note because it's not a £50 note.
@MoutsGoat
Let's assume that hey are asset strippers and sell Barkley for 40mil, Lukaku for 50 mil and Stones for 60mil after the Euro's and for cash, no add-ons. All of these circumstances are unlikely
How much can they extract from the 150 mil?
Rom's net book value would be 60% of 28mil so take 16.8mil off. This assumes all 28 mil is on the books as there were no add ons.
Barkley is probably only on the books at a couple of mil so take 2 mil off
Stones is probably on at no more than 4 mil even after his new deal costs so take 4 mil off.
So the player profit in the accounts is now 127.8 mil.
Barnsley owed minimum 10% of profit on sell on so take a further 5.6mil off.
Player profit is now 122.2 mil.
But there's Corporation tax to pay on about 110 mil of the 122.2 mil die to tax losses b/fwd being about 12 mil from memory. So CT@ 20% = 22mil, so 100mil profit to reserves.
But the deficit on the P&L reserve was 42 mil from memory, so the distributable amount is about 58mil or 92 mil less than you reckon they could take out.
This assumes break even on ordinary trading.
Re-think of your theory needed perhaps?
Let's assume that hey are asset strippers and sell Barkley for 40mil, Lukaku for 50 mil and Stones for 60mil after the Euro's and for cash, no add-ons. All of these circumstances are unlikely
How much can they extract from the 150 mil?
Rom's net book value would be 60% of 28mil so take 16.8mil off. This assumes all 28 mil is on the books as there were no add ons.
Barkley is probably only on the books at a couple of mil so take 2 mil off
Stones is probably on at no more than 4 mil even after his new deal costs so take 4 mil off.
So the player profit in the accounts is now 127.8 mil.
Barnsley owed minimum 10% of profit on sell on so take a further 5.6mil off.
Player profit is now 122.2 mil.
But there's Corporation tax to pay on about 110 mil of the 122.2 mil die to tax losses b/fwd being about 12 mil from memory. So CT@ 20% = 22mil, so 100mil profit to reserves.
But the deficit on the P&L reserve was 42 mil from memory, so the distributable amount is about 58mil or 92 mil less than you reckon they could take out.
This assumes break even on ordinary trading.
Re-think of your theory needed perhaps?
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USABlue
Player Valuation: £70m
Even if they only solve the stadium issue and increase our commercial revenue to make us a better sell down the road, it'll be better than things are now. Obviously we don't know everything yet but can't see the downside unless they try a leveraged buyout which I don't think will happen
blueboy1945
Player Valuation: £8m
Wheres your Christmas spirit sonny?
Steve Wigan
Player Valuation: £35m
Sky and BT, etc are taking a massive gamble by paying increasing sums for football rights, because quite simply the viewing figures for football do not justify or in fact cover the incredible outlay by TV companies. How many people for example do you think watch Monday Night Football? The answer is that it very rarely gets over a million. A negligible amount which is already causing a drop off in advertising revenue.The next TV deal, if it happens, will probably be the last with increased money for the clubs. Inevitably there will be less money paid for sport in general because viewing figures simply do no justify the massive outlay. Already there is a lot of 'padding' by Sky with Championship and First and Second Division games shown at traditional live football slots, and for some of these games the number of viewers is embarrassingly low. Clubs need to use the money they are getting now in the right way, because it won't be available much beyond the near future.
Dithering Dougie
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The foreign markets no way near saturation point. In fact with City's announcement recently about major investment partners from a Chinese media company plus the continued growth of the game in the states it's getting access to big and hungrier markets each time the rights are up for renewal it seems. Doesn't look like it's slowing down anytime soon Steve.
Also if Monday night footballs such a loser for them why are Sky and BT pushing for an extra day of football now with Friday night games? There's plenty of mileage in this gravy train yet.
I actually think football is heading for a decline .I work in schools a lot and Young People just don't seem to be any where near as passionate about football as we were. The terrific expense puts a lot of parents taking there kids the match especially if there is two or three.
I read somewhere the average age on the kop is forty, I was amazed at what you said about Monday night football, although I do watch it regular I only definitely watch it if its Everton.
When will the bubble burst of the Sky cash cow that is the question?
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Not soon enough.
I would rather be Everton
I would rather be with this top brass who is being mentioned, anyone know how I can get hold of her?
Traditional television companies are going to keep paying more and more money for live sports, because they're the only thing keeping many people from switching off their televisions and shifting entirely to streaming services. Scripted episodic shows don't need televisions any more if you're willing to wait a little while; news is easier to get over the internet; only sports loses its impact if you don't see it live. Advertisers know this, too, and are willing to pay massive premiums to get their products shilled during sorting events, because they know the eyeballs watching are more attentive.
TV money will hit an equilibrium at some point, but I don't think we've come close yet.
TV money will hit an equilibrium at some point, but I don't think we've come close yet.
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