Leaders & the Club

[MrGrumpy]

Your never going to win anything with Keane in the team he to much of a liability, how many points alone has he cost us this season and now a cup exit

 

[chrismpw]

It would be nice to win something.

But there are 90 odd clubs battling to win the league Cup, more to win the FA cup and nation states the top division. There's only one winner in each of those competitions. Every other team is a loser. Every one. We are not alone. The days of having a good run and finding success are over - at kick off in August you know mega-money is going to win everything, we are just there to he part of the pantomime so the leading lady can shine.

It's no longer anything to do with leadership.

Let that sink in.

 

[StDomingosGringo]

Strange thread started in pain. We’ve got leaders all over the pitch. That’s what this type of unified squad mentality brings.

Even if you only look at who does the talking on the pitch & not how they play there’s still plenty of names to throw out.

 

[Raino85]

Keane is exactly what is wrong at Everton football club, because he scored a goal v the mighty Burnley some fans are saying give him some slack, the guy is a liability and always will be.

He will play on sat and give a penalty away it’s nailed on

The longer he stays in the team the nore uncomfortible he gets.

He's fine to air drop in once every 10 games but ww have seen over a prolonged spell of 7 years, he's not capible of being consistant

 

[blueblood]

Just posted in the match thread but I think it’s more of a mentality that runs through the whole club. How many of us expected to win that shoot out compared with hoped to win it? Over the years we’ve just had a whole narrative of ‘plucky little Everton’ ‘knife to a gunfight’ and I feel even ‘the people’s club’ are all mentalities that set us up to with an inferiority complex. Hopefully a combination of Dyche, some new leadership from the top of the club and the ground move can start a whole cultural shift. That then filters to the pitch, where players and fans expect to win games/cups, rather than just hope.

 

[Eggs]

…..disagree, indeed Tarkowski mention how many ‘leaders’ and positive voices there are in the dressing room after the Burnley game. From memory, he mentioned Coleman, DCL and Gueye whilst Dyche singled out Tarkowski.

We scored some terrific penalties last night. The problem was not converting the key Onana effort and Pickford’s failure to stop more penalties that he easily covered. Its’s more about lessons learned than lack of leaders, and you leave your worst strikers of a ball to last (surprised Garner went after Onana and I’d have Pickford, Patterson and Branthwaite before Gueye).

Sad that after a run of games were the application and leadership has been terrific @kiss the crest chooses to criticise the lack of leadership and application.

 

[Kurt.]

This is not a sour grapes post, this is just an observation as to why we never win anything and won’t for the foreseeable future.

Apart from Pickford and Coleman we don’t have any leaders winners in the team.
Fulham we’re there tonight to be taken to the cleaners, this is Fulham we have just played and we played the game like it was a pre season friendly, we had no one driving the team on a Peter Reid or a Sharp or Ratcliffe.

The club and Dyche need to get a grip of those ball boys and bin them off, what is the purpose of them, can you imagine Pep or should I say it Klopp standing for that show from them tonight 100% no they wouldn’t. That’s the difference in mentality

Dyche DO NOT PUT MICHAEL KEANE NEAR THE TEAM AGAIN, I AM SICK OF THAT CLOWN

IT WAS HIM WHO GOT silva sacked let that sink in

Deffo not a sour grapes rant

 

[Daveysgingerlovechild]

Cocaine?

 

[Eggs]

Strange thread started in pain. We’ve got leaders all over the pitch. That’s what this type of unified squad mentality brings.

Even if you only look at who does the talking on the pitch & not how they play there’s still plenty of names to throw out.

….a team without leaders would’ve shrivelled with a 10 point deduction.

 

[Tigger]

Cant believe the poor ball boys are getting it.

I thought they were all right tonight tbf, although the bar staff in the bullens need to up their game, saw one drop a full pint absolutely disgraceful performance. Dychey need to get a grip of the club ffs

 

[MrGrumpy]

Just posted in the match thread but I think it’s more of a mentality that runs through the whole club. How many of us expected to win that shoot out compared with hoped to win it? Over the years we’ve just had a whole narrative of ‘plucky little Everton’ ‘knife to a gunfight’ and I feel even ‘the people’s club’ are all mentalities that set us up to with an inferiority complex. Hopefully a combination of Dyche, some new leadership from the top of the club and the ground move can start a whole cultural shift. That then filters to the pitch, where players and fans expect to win games/cups, rather than just hope.

This is spot on. I didn’t watch it was asleep as in work early but when woke up I went on the SSN app to see the score it said Everton went to pens and I knew instantly we lost and we did. We never win penalties, our records not that bad but alot if that from the past.
You look at the RS and they never lose them, it’s got to be a mentality thing