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Leicester-The Worst Reigning Champions Ever?

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Ashtonian said:
I don't get this thought process either about keeping ranieri.

If there is a genuine chance of relegation and he can't avoid it then bringing someone in who can avoid it would surely be the best solution?

I personally think ranieri has always been a average manager at best who got about by being Italian rather than being any good. He oversaw a title win, full credit to him there. But the same title win turned Huth and Morgan into top class defenders out of the blue for example yet I don't see a queue for their signature. It is possible things just fell into place perfectly last year and personally I'm made up you guys won the league. Better than the usual winners anyhow.

But would he have been sacked if this was 12 months ago and he was doing a bad job? So why not take that into account now?
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Exactly this. There are some Leicester fans that would rather keep him and go down. I love the man and respect him massively for last season but first and foremost I'm a Leicester fan and if there's the slightest chance a new manager can come in and keep us up then that's what I want us to do. The players are the main problem but it's impossible to replace them now so theres only one option.

Last season was a mixture of so many things, despite what you think of him Pearson laid brilliant foundations at the club. We were massive on sports science etc. Ranieri kept it all last season but seems to have wanted to but his own stamp on things this year. We stayed relatively injury free, all the big clubs were going through transition periods and our players had the seasons of their careers.
 
FOXINPEACE said:
It's OK fans of other clubs saying that its disgraceful Leicester fans wanting Ranieri sacked but you'd be exactly the same if you was watching this type of football week in week out. And that's what it is, not the results that we're so angry about its the lack of change of style and tactics.

We've always been a yo-yo club so relegation isn't the be all and end all but winning the league should have been a platform to establish ourselves as a mid table prem team but we've blown it. Everything from recruitment to the management has been shambolic this season. Looking at the way you lot talk about managers past and present you'd be wanting exactly the same thing
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The difficult thing for you guys is that you won the league with a system and 1 amazing player (who left) and a group of journeymen who had 1 amazing season. Consolidation was always going to be tricky. At least you tried to buy quality. The year we qualified for the CL playoff we dithered around, bought no players and wasted the chance. I do doubt Ranieri's ability to turn it round but I think it would be very harsh to sack him.
 
hallamblue said:
The difficult thing for you guys is that you won the league with a system and 1 amazing player (who left) and a group of journeymen who had 1 amazing season. Consolidation was always going to be tricky. At least you tried to buy quality. The year we qualified for the CL playoff we dithered around, bought no players and wasted the chance. I do doubt Ranieri's ability to turn it round but I think it would be very harsh to sack him.
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We didn't try hard enough to buy quality. These are a few players we were linked with but wouldn't pay an extra 3-5 million to get.

Michael Keane
Adrien Silva
Steven N'zonzi
Aleksandr Dragovic
Gylfi Sigurddson

They would have been players that would've consolidated us imo
 
FOXINPEACE said:
We didn't try hard enough to buy quality. These are a few players we were linked with but wouldn't pay an extra 3-5 million to get.

Michael Keane
Adrien Silva
Steven N'zonzi
Aleksandr Dragovic
Gylfi Sigurddson

They would have been players that would've consolidated us imo
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I agree with those shouts but I think you would have struggled to get those players. You need 2 or 3 seasons in the CL before you become attractive. You bought a couple of players that I thought were in with a chance of being top drawer.
 
hallamblue said:
I agree with those shouts but I think you would have struggled to get those players. You need 2 or 3 seasons in the CL before you become attractive. You bought a couple of players that I thought were in with a chance of being top drawer.
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N'zonzi was out of favour at Sevilla at the time so think that was possible and Adrian Silva publicly stated he wanted to join us. Not sure about the others but think we could've nabbed Keane
 

FOXINPEACE said:
N'zonzi was out of favour at Sevilla at the time so think that was possible and Adrian Silva publicly stated he wanted to join us. Not sure about the others but think we could've nabbed Keane
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It's not always the player. Burnley and Swansea wouldn't have sold Keane and Gylfi.
 
hallamblue said:
The difficult thing for you guys is that you won the league with a system and 1 amazing player (who left) and a group of journeymen who had 1 amazing season. Consolidation was always going to be tricky. At least you tried to buy quality. The year we qualified for the CL playoff we dithered around, bought no players and wasted the chance. I do doubt Ranieri's ability to turn it round but I think it would be very harsh to sack him.
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How so? He is doing the worst possible job he can be doing right now and taking them down. Other clubs sack their managers for plummeting down the league without any real hope of survival so they can stay up, even Chelsea off the back of a title win sacked their manager because it looked like he didn't have a clue on how to turn it around.

Do you think they can afford relegation just out of loyalty? Yes he delivered a title win but where do you stop? What if this time next season they are bottom of the championship, do you sack him then? Despite him being a title winning manager for them? And if you think yes, then why not sack him now before they even reach the championship and at least stay in the top league?
 
Ashtonian said:
How so? He is doing the worst possible job he can be doing right now and taking them down. Other clubs sack their managers for plummeting down the league without any real hope of survival so they can stay up, even Chelsea off the back of a title win sacked their manager because it looked like he didn't have a clue on how to turn it around.

Do you think they can afford relegation just out of loyalty? Yes he delivered a title win but where do you stop? What if this time next season they are bottom of the championship, do you sack him then? Despite him being a title winning manager for them? And if you think yes, then why not sack him now before they even reach the championship and at least stay in the top league?
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It's all about how much bottle their board have now Ash - stick or twist.

Who are the viable alternatives if they were to sack him ?.

I like the fella, but from what I'm seeing there's shades of Martinez last season with some of their players.

He's either lost some of them or they just aren't arsed due to big fat pay rises.

The catalyst could be a spanking tonight from Sevilla.
 
COYBL25 said:
It's all about how much bottle their board now Ash - stick or twist.

Who are the viable alternatives if they were to sack him ?.

I like the fella, but from what I'm seeing there's shades of Martinez last season with some of their players.

He's either lost some of them or they just aren't arsed due to big fat pay rises.

The catalyst could be a spanking tonight from Sevilla.
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Aye it does strike me has whether they have the bottle to or sit on their hands and hope for a different result.

In terms of replacements, just pot luck really. Hull signing that fella who has turned their fortunes around over the past month probably would not have been predictable when they brought him in. the issue creeps in if they have not considered sacking ranieri yet as they have a bigger risk of knee jerking the appointment and destroying anything they have in place there.

I still stand by my thoughts that he isn't a very good manager in the general sense, same as mancini isn't, italian who find themselves in fortunate situations and benefit from it as a result.
 

FOXINPEACE said:
I think the new manager bounce alone would give us a chance. Some of the names on the list are horrendous though! The thought of Pardew or Hodgson make me feel sick to my stomach lol
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Names like that smack of desperation.

Depends on whether your board or knee jerkers.

Unfortunately no one saw this coming and I don't think there will have been any thoughts at board level of a new manager until very recently.

Al lot depends on whether he's prepared to sacrifice his principles and pick a dogs of war team, made up of players that he knows will give their all for him.
 
COYBL25 said:
Names like that smack of desperation.

Depends on whether your board or knee jerkers.

Unfortunately no one saw this coming and I don't think there will have been any thoughts at board level of a new manager until very recently.

Al lot depends on whether he's prepared to sacrifice his principles and pick a dogs of war team, made up of players that he knows will give their all for him.
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True. Our owners seem very loyal which in some ways is refreshing to see. Enough is enough though.

Unfortunately the players that are still playing for him lack the quality. I'd still rather see them play though
 
Have to say I hadn't quite realised how much trouble Leicester are in. I'd heard stuff in the media about them being in a relegation battle but assumed it was hyperbole... hadn't actually looked down at the bottom end of the table for a while... It's way worse than I thought
 

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