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I think if we had beckford playing instead of lukaku last season he would have got 15 goals, for some reason people are forgetting that for the past 11 years David Moyes has turned goalscorers into exhausted channel runners. Kone got 11 in a relegated Wigan side.
I actually think lukaku should have scored more and I also think his overall game is piss poor for a team that is meant to retain possession.
Overhyped player, people must be looking away or choosing to ignore his misplaced passes or when the ball bounces off him.
I actually think lukaku should have scored more and I also think his overall game is piss poor for a team that is meant to retain possession.
Overhyped player, people must be looking away or choosing to ignore his misplaced passes or when the ball bounces off him.
Simon Smith
Player Valuation: £5m
I guess your not a fan of his then then?
The question was not for finding answer, but for speculation about lukakus value
I think people just need to get a bit of perspective about him. We are creating more open play chances than ever before, the reliance on the front man leaving the 18 yard box to chase balls knocked down the channels has been negated by the full backs bombing on and McCarthy and Barry filling the gaps, in short this team is set up for a striker to score goals.
The problem with Lukaku that such build up play is not suited to his strengths which is reliance on running at his man or beyond him. With his back to goal and a man marking him his control is poor, his lay offs usually don't come off and the move breaks down. Of course what happens is a ball will fall in the box, he will lash it home and all of the other stuff is forgotten.
There is a place for him in most squads, the problem is, when it is not his game - it really is not his game and we look short of ideas. The very fact that we look to have more guile and mischief with the previously much maligned Naismith says everything you need to know about Lukaku's shortfalls. For a £20m player, you would expect him to have Naismiths intelligence, workrate and footballing ability (and Naismith is by far no means a technical player).
For what he is, he is a £12-15m striker. A good player, but no where near the player that many are making him out to be.
15 goals and 8 assists in 33 games, with virtually no cover. At 20 years old.
Give your heads a long, hard wobble. He's going to get better as he reaches his peak which is still possibly five or six years away.
What is it that you expect him to improve on at the age of 20? His touch, passing, control are not going to improve by much now, and the issue is that they need to improve alot.
The areas where he will improve is mentally and tactically, but really that isn't going to count for much if balls keep bouncing off him. Goals and assists in a good team along with the odd burst of power are papering over some seriously flawed tecnical necessities.
I disagree with the suggestion that at 20 he is too old to improve his touch, passing and control. You are not, I presume, a professional football coach?
And goals and assists are, according to most people, a reliable measure of a striker's contribution to a football team.
I love that "assist" stat.
Off the top of my head, that would include the mis-hit shot which Oviedo baby pounced on at OT and the aimless header which thanks to the defender's hesitancy and the opportunism of Mirallas resulted in a goal at Stoke
Some people on here are guilty of vastly overrating Lukaku.
He's good...but he ain't that good.
Off the top of my head, that would include the mis-hit shot which Oviedo baby pounced on at OT and the aimless header which thanks to the defender's hesitancy and the opportunism of Mirallas resulted in a goal at Stoke
Some people on here are guilty of vastly overrating Lukaku.
He's good...but he ain't that good.
If you disagree with the suggestion that at 20 he is too old to improve touch, passing and control then you are arguing against science. Motor skills are pretty much developed by now, he may learn ways to have "stock" method of control or learn a certain type and weight of pass - but instinctively he is not there and never will be.
Watch any class forward like suarez or aguero, they aren't even thinking of "can I get this under control" "whilst the ball is arrowing towards them they are thinking "one touch lay off, or control and shot" - Lukaku has his body braced, is flat footed and waiting to react to try and get to where the ball bounces to.
Still Laugh when i see thislol
Blue Cheese
Mental Patient, GOT Ward
people are choosing to forget that when he was injured we hardly scored. Yet anyone could have bagged 15goals this season haha whatever.
"I think people just need to get a bit of perspective about him. We are creating more open play chances than ever before, the reliance on the front man leaving the 18 yard box to chase balls knocked down the channels has been negated by the full backs bombing on and McCarthy and Barry filling the gaps, in short this team is set up for a striker to score goals."
"I think people just need to get a bit of perspective about him. We are creating more open play chances than ever before, the reliance on the front man leaving the 18 yard box to chase balls knocked down the channels has been negated by the full backs bombing on and McCarthy and Barry filling the gaps, in short this team is set up for a striker to score goals."
Blue Cheese
Mental Patient, GOT Ward
Wrong wrong on every level you are looking at 23-24 before they have pretty much reached maximum potential. Players can still develop. Some don't even come into their own until that age. saying someone at the age of 20 cannot improve on things is to be blunt a load of betty swollocks.
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