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Little Ralphy said:
Like the rest of the squad, none of them are fit enough, most of them are carrying excess weight even! Pre-season was a joke and Martinez has never addressed it. It's impacted on every aspect of the team.
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daz4matty said:
You make a good point about the fitness I just hope the manager and coaching staff make sure we have a proper pre season this year.
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Didn't Martinez say he plans pre-season specifically so the team are fresher going into the last 10 games of the season.

I know we didn't particularly play well during that recent 5 game winning streak, but I thought at the time maybe us finding form backs up those comments.

Don't agree, though. Think it's all a load of bollocks! Clearly not fit enough all season. Ruined the whole season for me and deffo needs addressing this summer
 

blue_aussie05 said:
Didn't Martinez say he plans pre-season specifically so the team are fresher going into the last 10 games of the season.

I know we didn't particularly play well during that recent 5 game winning streak, but I thought at the time maybe us finding form backs up those comments.

Don't agree, though. Think it's all a load of bollocks! Clearly not fit enough all season. Ruined the whole season for me and deffo needs addressing this summer
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I don't see how you can plan pre season for the last 10 games
 
daz4matty said:
I don't see how you can plan pre season for the last 10 games
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I'm pretty sure that's what he said a while back. It's a load of bollocks anyway. Would also help if we played well enough the rest of the season to have something to play for in the last 10 games.

Didn't exactly help us last season either, did it!!
 
blue_aussie05 said:
Err...either did I. And anyway, what's laziness got to do with the colour of his skin?!
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blue_aussie05 said:
Being lazy and being tired are two completely different things. If indeed, it actually is tiredness that's the issue with him.

Granted, I've never played professional football. But I know when I was 21 I could have played and run all day and had energy to burn.

I know he's not superhuman, and just because he's only 21 doesn't automatically prevent him from being tired. But I think it's worrying if he is, given his youth. What's he going to be like at 31 then?
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I think the problem is, at the elite level of support often behaviours that can be assumed to be "laziness" can often be attributed to other things. Tiredness, lack of preparation, lack of concentration etc.

If you look at the build of Lukaku he is not built to "run himself into the ground" however much he may try. I've watched him work his socks off, but it looks very awkward and unnatural. I think the bigger criticism is does he put himself about enough at particular moments. I'd like to see him be more aggressive.
 
Khalekan said:
Big Joe was about twenty when he scored 22 goals or something league goals as he fired us to Title glory in 1969/70.

He took the pennos and he sure as heck looked a lot more convincing than Rom when doing so.

Joe ŵas mobile and had a splendid touch.

Joe was great in the air and not only did he score plenty of headed goals he got many assists with cushioned headers down for the likes of Jimmy Husband.

And this all at age 20 or 21.

Joe had been on the scene from 1966 which is four or five years before we won the league....the same time as has more Le less elapsed since Rom made his international debut.

Joe's progress in his five years was "pheenomenal".

Rom has stalled this season.

IMO Romelu Lukaku is not a patch on what Joe Royle was, aged 21.

Here's the thing, though.

Joe never really got any better after 1970.

Mainly due to his back problems.

But also I think because these big, precocious teenage types don't always kick on when they get older.

Norman Whiteside was another tank of a teenager who never really fulfilled his potential IMO.

It is not impossible that this is as good as it gets for Rom.
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Yes but Joe as great as he was - and my hero - I agree He worked hard, but he was in a team with a blistering midfield and a winger called Johny Morressey who could cross the ball on to his head!

Its hard to compare , but they were different types of centre forwards as was Bob Latchford, who was a lazy fox in the box striker , but he too had a great winger, and decent midfield in Dave Thomas to supply him with goals.
Every striker is different, but needs to supply Lukarku this season is in short supply as we can't cross the ball, and have virtually no creation in midfield and no competition to replace him!

He is lucky if he gets a half chance in most games he has to virtually create goals for himself - if he was missing sitters etc, I could understand your views, I just feel this season the whole set up of our midfield is poor , and teams know how to stop any supply to Lukarku stop our overlapping fullbacks , and they have!
 
Lets not get into race arguments, eh.

Fact is - he is certainly not lazy.
He blows hot and cold. He has no control whatsover, most of the time. Couldn't trap a bag of cement, but has the ability to smash them in.

Hopefully will learn control, but as it stands he has a long way to go.
 
Lukaku has missed loads of sitters this season.

Young boys away - although he got a hat trick, he still could have had 5. And the next game against Leicester at home, he could easily have got 2 or 3
 
Chelsea away also springs to mind. Good save by courtois, but Lukaku should still have buried it from a few yards out in the middle of the goal
 

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