Install the app
How to install the app on iOS

Follow along with the video below to see how to install our site as a web app on your home screen.

Note: This feature may not be available in some browsers.

  • Participation within this subforum is only available to members who have had 5+ posts approved elsewhere.

Manchester United

Status
Not open for further replies.
burnley and crystal palace performances have been quite poor

they also have to play in the champions league and fa cup

fernandes looks tired and without pogba they seem devoid of creativity

end of season fatigue could be creeping in
 
Oh don't get me wrong there are a lot who have followed gerrard in that sense added to a number who already had an affiliation but by and large they are much closer to Celtic. So are we although I like the little Hibs connection I've seen over the years. I'm not sure the lads Andy Nicholls and his blues kicked about with care too much about Celtic mind.

Andy doesn't like Celtic much from memory. He's entitled to his view as everyone else is. They are lapping up Gerrard and Rangers at the moment thouugh, and pre the 70's they loved Rangers too and used to sing Rangers type songs on the Kop. Sure they've got a song to that Sash song as well.
 
they look knackered and now go Sunday (man city) - Thursday (UEFA) - Sunday (West ham) I can see them struggling for a while here & getting sucked right back into top 4 race before they know it. City will be fresh with 4/5 changes for Sunday & hard to see united getting more than a point
 
You are correct in what you posted , apart from a few away performances we have been awful to there does not seem to be a lot of urgency in our play , maybe we are tired like a lot of teams , pogba is a big though but van de beek i dont know what they are doing with him , but most team have struggled apart from city

I think you rode the crest of a wave with OGS a bit and had a world class player in Fernandes, who is not quite htting the same heights. I mean if you shut him down, United are probably back to where they were before.

You always sensed there would be this dip, it was just a case of when. United have had a great season though, and if they can finish top 4, and get a trophy, I'm sure fans will be pleased.
 
Andy doesn't like Celtic much from memory. He's entitled to his view as everyone else is. They are lapping up Gerrard and Rangers at the moment thouugh, and pre the 70's they loved Rangers too and used to sing Rangers type songs on the Kop. Sure they've got a song to that Sash song as well.
And Fields of Athenry to be fair. I think it's divided, certainly not weighted to the blue side. Same as us.
 

they look knackered and now go Sunday (man city) - Thursday (UEFA) - Sunday (West ham) I can see them struggling for a while here & getting sucked right back into top 4 race before they know it. City will be fresh with 4/5 changes for Sunday & hard to see united getting more than a point
I just hope that things don't get bad enough that they sack OGS just yet. Ideal world they finish below us but still keep OGS.
 
4 draws and 1 win in the last 5, these lot are second.
lollol

It's incredible, there is a genuine opportunity for ourselves, Villa, West ham to take advantage of this. It's now not beyond the realms of possibility that Liverpool, United, Leicester & even chelsea miss out. Unlikely that they all will but who knows.
 

That Donny van de Beek is basically Davy Klaassen mk II.

Think Utd have got a decent squad, definitely top 4 - just don't think Solskjaer is the right fit.
 
It's incredible, there is a genuine opportunity for ourselves, Villa, West ham to take advantage of this. It's now not beyond the realms of possibility that Liverpool, United, Leicester & even chelsea miss out. Unlikely that they all will but who knows.
Can you just imagine the crisis at BT Sport and SKY if Liverpool, United & Chelsea (I won't even bother mentioning Arsenal)
all miss out on a top 4 spot? Can't see it happening but you can live in hope!
 
Can you just imagine the crisis at BT Sport and SKY if Liverpool, United & Chelsea (I won't even bother mentioning Arsenal)
all miss out on a top 4 spot? Can't see it happening but you can live in hope!

Yeah it would be a killer for BT in particular in terms of their CL nights obviously; but also having Liverpool, United and Chelsea (if they got Europa) playing most Sundays
 
they look knackered and now go Sunday (man city) - Thursday (UEFA) - Sunday (West ham) I can see them struggling for a while here & getting sucked right back into top 4 race before they know it. City will be fresh with 4/5 changes for Sunday & hard to see united getting more than a point

I think I mentioned to you in the autumn I could see this season being very very tight. I haven't looked into it, but I'd imagine the gap between say 2nd to 10th will never have been tighter. I did something around half way through, and basically if you took the 1-4, 1-6 & 1-8 measurements across 25 season it was like 5 occasions where it had been tighter at any of those categories.

Whats happened since, is City have emerged as an elite team. I think we both said, really only City or Liverpool had the sort of run in them City have produced. You kind of get the sense City were a year or 2 ahead of Liverpool in their journey, so it was either going to be like a Liverpool final swansong for this team, or City's next evolution would be a bit quicker. I mean fair is fair, I didn't think we would see an elite team this season, so while I got Liverpool right, I felt we'd only see what City are doing now next season.

What is noteworthy is that that the season hasn't broken into groupings at all. You kind of thought, approaching 10 games left that it would be clear who are challenging for the title, who were top 4, who weregoing for Europa League and who weretrying to hold position inthe top half. Outside of the title challenger (as nobody will get close) they are all melded in together. There have no doubt been some short term factors (injuries for Leicester) but it's always seemed to be, once a team has got themselves into a great position, they haven't quite kicked on. We are probably in that bracket too. So it's made for a really fascinating season.

You rightly pointed out about European games. In fairness aside from City (who also really only kicked in quite a big into that no European game run) none of the sides have really pulled away and put that distance between the "top 6" and "the rest" when they had the European break. What that shows to me, in my view of course, is that actually the reverse may be true, and they may end up having some real fatigue challenges at the back end. Like if you can't make hay while everyone if fatigued, good luck when you get more fatigued and the rest of the league stay fresh.

I do think as I said last time there's a medium term issue here too. The top 6 was being caught before the pandemic, and given it has impacted them disproportionately more than other sides you can see a closing up of the gap. Cotrary to certain reports, I also think fans returning will help the sides outside of the big 6 as a rule, as they tend to rely on fans a little more for home advantage (the chaos of fans is in essence a bit of an equaliser).

So it's certainly interesting, and I wouldn't rule out United grinding to a bit of a halt with the European games being unrelenting, and undoubtedly pressures around the international games growing too.
 

Status
Not open for further replies.

Welcome to GrandOldTeam

Get involved. Registration is simple and free.

Back
Top