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2019/20 Marcel Brands

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So you think, if we’d have gone for it, we’d have got Bruno Fernandes here for £50m?

Havent a clue- but Brands theory has been shown as being rubbish.

Added to the disaster of last summer's signings I dont know how he still has unwavering support from some fans.

He's just as much to blame for this season as Silva imo.
 
Havent a clue- but Brands theory has been shown as being rubbish.

Added to the disaster of last summer's signings I dont know how he still has unwavering support from some fans.

He's just as much to blame for this season as Silva imo.

Everton do not find value in January. We don’t have the pull United do for Fernandes or Liverpool did for Suarez.

We get charged £20m in January for Walcott’s.
 
Havent a clue- but Brands theory has been shown as being rubbish.

Added to the disaster of last summer's signings I dont know how he still has unwavering support from some fans.

He's just as much to blame for this season as Silva imo.
Has it?

Utd can afford to take gambles of 50 million in the January window. We cannot.

Obviously that is going to make Utd a lot less risk averse than we have to be.
 
Has it?

Utd can afford to take gambles of 50 million in the January window. We cannot.

Obviously that is going to make Utd a lot less risk averse than we have to be.

Plenty of top signings have been made in January.

For me it shown up Brands as being somewhat short sighted in his recruitment policy - instead of looking at players on a case by case basis he's thrown the lazy "ah no value to be had in January lads" line out which has been shown to have little credibility.
 

Plenty of top signings have been made in January.

For me it shown up Brands as being somewhat short sighted in his recruitment policy - instead of looking at players on a case by case basis he's thrown the lazy "ah no value to be had in January lads" line out which has been shown to have little credibility.

Sure they have, but Brands' point was that they're done at a higher premium than they are usually done for in the summer and typically don't offer as much value for money.

We're up against the wall due to FFP so I can understand the value in biding our time to get the most value for our outlay.

He's never said "no value to be had in January", he just said there's better value in the summer market and for a club without the limitless resources of Utd that's where we are best spending our money.
 
Sure they have, but Brands' point was that they're done at a higher premium than they are usually done for in the summer and typically don't offer as much value for money.

We're up against the wall due to FFP so I can understand the value in biding our time to get the most value for our outlay.

He's never said "no value to be had in January", he just said there's better value in the summer market and for a club without the limitless resources of Utd that's where we are best spending our money.

I just think the club is on a hiding to nothing with the current set up - if you want to abide by FFP then you cant have a DOF peeing money away which we have in Brands.

Brands is the kind of manager a club like Utd would do well with as FFP doesnt mean anything to them.
 
So you think, if we’d have gone for it, we’d have got Bruno Fernandes here for £50m?
No we wouldn’t and of course every signing doesn’t come off, but just some alternatives we could have bought as a like for like comparison
Siggy 45M Maddison 20m
Walcott 20m Tarore 18m
Delph 8m Moutinho 5m
Sidibe (loan) Pereria 22m
Of course Siguardsson and Walcott was signed prior to Brands coming, but all the other players Could have been bought for a similar outlay, by Brands. I’ve no doubt we could have got these other players to join us. We maybe can’t attract the calibre of player such as Bruno Fernandes, but there is still quality around.
 
No we wouldn’t and of course every signing doesn’t come off, but just some alternatives we could have bought as a like for like comparison
Siggy 45M Maddison 20m
Walcott 20m Tarore 18m
Delph 8m Moutinho 5m
Sidibe (loan) Pereria 22m
Of course Siguardsson and Walcott was signed prior to Brands coming, but all the other players Could have been bought for a similar outlay, by Brands. I’ve no doubt we could have got these other players to join us. We maybe can’t attract the calibre of player such as Bruno Fernandes, but there is still quality around.

And we sign quality, for the most part, we just don’t let teams have us over a barrel in January.
 
Sure they have, but Brands' point was that they're done at a higher premium than they are usually done for in the summer and typically don't offer as much value for money.

We're up against the wall due to FFP so I can understand the value in biding our time to get the most value for our outlay.

He's never said "no value to be had in January", he just said there's better value in the summer market and for a club without the limitless resources of Utd that's where we are best spending our money.
That’s great but even in the summer window he hasn’t spent the money wisely.
 

That’s great but even in the summer window he hasn’t spent the money wisely.

He's fooled the masses with a sexy foreign accent and a record of success in the Dutch farmer league - same as Silva in Portugal.

If he was English like Walsh who's work at Leicester was far more impressive he would have been hammered for that summer window just gone.
 
And we sign quality, for the most part, we just don’t let teams have us over a barrel in January.

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Good joke friend
 
I just think the club is on a hiding to nothing with the current set up - if you want to abide by FFP then you cant have a DOF peeing money away which we have in Brands.

Brands is the kind of manager a club like Utd would do well with as FFP doesnt mean anything to them.

OK but do you not agree with his opinion that frequently clubs would add a premium to their players in January because they're needed in the middle of the season?

Do you not think if we were approached in January for one of the very few players we don't want to sell that we wouldn't put the price up because the player is needed to finish the season?

I get wanting to criticize Brands' performance but don't see the reasoning behind beating him with a stick simply because UTD signed a decent player for more than our club record fee in January.
 

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