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2019/20 Marco Silva

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davek said:
My point is that it's unjust to blame Silva and sack him, but to leave the real culprit in his job - Brands.
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Dave - Marco is an awful manager with a ridiculously poor record overall in the Premier League so he has to go sooner rather than later. Marcel Brands didn't pick him so I'd say let's get a manager in who Brands rates rather than have a third-rate failure like Silva to work with.
 
Certain posters creating nonsense trying to point the blame everywhere, when the obvious answer is obvious.

Dyche, Howe, Wilder all have less quality in their squads than Silva does.

Silva simply is far from the tactical master he was originally portrayed as, seems to have zero redeeming features whatsoever.

One trick pony the way he sets the team up, it’s not working.
 
paultheblue said:
I agree it is not good enough but none of us know what went in in transfer window which was another shambles, who was responsible for that?
We should already be looking for alternatives but where do you start ? If there is to be a new manager it has to be top draw this time .
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Transfer window wasn't the best for sure. Centre Back debacle, and maybe another striker (goalscorer) as Kean obviously needs development time.
Nonetheless, that squad should not be in 18th position after 8 (bar City) winnable games. We should be where Palace, Leicester, Wolves and West Ham are as minimum from those games. Added to that is the state of Man Utd, and the inconsistency of Spurs, Chelsea and Arsenal.
4 consecutive defeats. Not many managers survive that. And even if we win the next couple of games, I can see a few occasions this season when we lose 2 games back to back, or 3 straight league defeats etc etc. So its all a bit 'rinse and repeat' for me.
I agree that there's not necessarily a 'top' manager out there who is available (I don't see Mourinho coming to us as we are). So thats a big concern. But my overriding thoughts are that Silva isn't the answer mid to long term, and in the short term the damage caused might be irreprable.
 
Thomasc said:
Certain posters creating nonsense trying to point the blame everywhere, when the obvious answer is obvious.

Dyche, Howe, Wilder all have less quality in their squads than Silva does.

Silva simply is far from the tactical master he was originally portrayed as, seems to have zero redeeming features whatsoever.

One trick pony the way he sets the team up, it’s not working.
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They have the ability to motivate, one of the most important qualities, Silva simply doesn’t have it. Terrible Manager.
 

billyblue80 said:
But that's the model, the dof oversees the project long term the coach can change.
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But what if the DoF is the problem? The standard of player he's brought in has been poor overall...and expensively assembled. Over £200M he's spent - would you say it's been good value?

A manager plays with that deck he's handed.
 

Seathestars said:
They have the ability to motivate, one of the most important qualities, Silva simply doesn’t have it. Terrible Manager.
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His demeanour doesn’t really inspire. He always looks like a teenager who’s been asked to take the dog out.

Don’t get me wrong, I don’t want us to have a chest pumping helmet like Klopp, but someone who looks like he cares would be nice.
 
Stan Lee Park said:
Dave - Marco is an awful manager with a ridiculously poor record overall in the Premier League so he has to go sooner rather than later. Marcel Brands didn't pick him so I'd say let's get a manager in who Brands rates rather than have a third-rate failure like Silva to work with.
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Were you saying that last season?
 
Shifting some (but not all) of the blame to Brands (& Moshiri) is understandable I suppose.
But........surely this squad of players (part Brands/Silva recommendations and part previous regimes) shouldn't be 18th (7 points from those 8 fixtures)? Surely nobody is saying its acceptable on any level for Everton Football Club?
The buck always, always, stops with the Manager where team performances and points are concerned. He has to be able to work with what he has, and get the performances that win points. He's failing badly.
If the Board made a mistake appointing him, then they made a mistake. But they have the power to change the position.
Silva is a nice guy. I wanted it to work for him and us. It hasn't so far, and it won't (in my opinion) in the mid to long term.
 
davek said:
But what if the DoF is the problem? The standard of player he's brought in has been poor overall...and expensively assembled. Over £200M he's spent - would you say it's been good value?

A manager plays with that deck he's handed.
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There's absolutely no doubt you've got a good point here and dismissing it would be so naive.

Kean is an excellent buy if you've got a 29 / 30 year old striker of quality that he can learn about the english game from and gradually replace. Having DCL there is really poor business. Not because he's never going to be good enough, I think at this point it has to be filed under "unknown", but instead due to the fact he's going through his own progression.

The conclusion is we are without a striker who can regularly score goals and take the pressure off the rest of the team. Make no mistake, the shower across the park do very little defending. City over the last few years the same. The reason for that is these sides put their opponents under sustained pressure. We actually do the same, certainly not to the same degree, but we don't have a single assassin in that front line.

For

Iwobi 28m + wages
Bernard wages
Richarlison 35m + wages
Kean 28m + wages
Walcott 20m + wages
DCL the anomoly. I'd imagine very cheap on wages.
Tosun 27m + wages

To go into the season thinking there is enough goals in that front line is really, really poor from Brands.

Throw in we now have a genuinely under performing Sig', we are bang in trouble of finishing as low as Martinez did. I don't see relegation trouble but instead an expensively assembled squad still missing the key ingredient of goals.

Of course, it doesn't help that Gbamin and Gomes have been injured.

Finally, as I'm sure you'll admin @davek , Silva is getting things wrong too.

Take Saturday. Burnley 9/10 go 4-4-2. The primary reason we pumped them last season was our excellent 3-5-2 system. With 3CBs to deal with their direct balls into the front two, it allowed us to flood the midfield and completely dominant the game.

Holgate should have come in and we should have replicated that exact system. Instead, it's 4-2-3-1 and whilst yes we had a few chances, there wasn't anyway near the domination of the ball not the creativity from having so many in midfield.

I think he's headed for the exit. He seems to have stopped doing the things he was doing last season. There's no fluidity. It's just the same every week, pushing the agenda and waiting for it to work. It's very Bobby-like. And not in a good way.
 

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