Martinez and Jones comments on set pieces

[Caolam]

This is his biggest failing, our shortcomings are obvious to everyone but he doesn't know how to or plainly refuses to correct them. You don't have to be a genius to realise that if you do the same thing over and over again you get the same result

 

[royalblue66]

This is his biggest failing, our shortcomings are obvious to everyone but he doesn't know how to or plainly refuses to correct them. You don't have to be a genius to realise that if you do the same thing over and over again you get the same result

He is Stubborn mate,and he ain't going to change.

 

[DrEFC]

Tbf the rate of scoring from corners is extremely low so it's understandable not spending so much time on them

Set pieces not just corners.. I think we've scored 7 away from home from set pieces which is a considerable chunk of our goals. Look how many we've conceded via crosses/setpieces, bet it will be a significant amount.

 

[DrEFC]

I'm more concerned at crosses from open play tbh.

Ah, I'd replied to your first post

 

[Caolam]

Last year I suggested that Martinez needed a mentor, a wiser older head to pint out his shortcomings. I now think he is a perfect assistant. He can put forward all his theories and suggestions but the boss will make the decisions.

 

[Polish_Blue_Army]

Isn't this like 2 years old and hasn't Baines(?) said in an interview recently that we do practice them?

Well the return to practicing set pieces after 2 years of not doing it shows that martinez really doesnt know what to do.

The reason of the 13/14 success is the connection of martinez's new ideas in terms of attacking football and the good defence we had under moyes.

 

[Igrok]

Just a criminal...

 

[maccavennie]

Last year I suggested that Martinez needed a mentor, a wiser older head to pint out his shortcomings. I now think he is a perfect assistant. He can put forward all his theories and suggestions but the boss will make the decisions.

He's not going to go from being a manager of Everton to being an assistant though is he mate. He's been a manager for 10 years and he will continue to be a manager of someone else takes a punt on him once we've decided to kick him into touch.

 

[welshtoffee]

He is Stubborn mate,and he ain't going to change.

Very very stubborn and not particularly a good manager.

 

[hktoffee]

Quote taken from Leon Osmans autobiography

''Another difference between the managers is their approach to set-pieces. With Moyes, we could spend an hour and a half on Fridays going through routines because he was so meticulous in that aspect. If I was a manager, I'd probably do the same because fine lines can determine games. He hated losing goals at set-pieces because it was something he could influence."

"Martinez doesn't really do that. It's rare for us to work on set-pieces. You're given your roles, you're supposed to understand them and if you don't, find out, think for yourself. That was a big changeover for us."

"We questioned why we weren't working on set-pieces and Graeme Jones, the assistant manager, said: "How many do you have to defend in a game? Three? So why would we spend two hours standing around to defend three set-pieces when we could work on moving the ball."

Dig this out...wow unbelievable.

 

[LouReedwalkonthewildside]

Bloody hell, getting hard to keep up with all these new 'Another reason to slate Martinez to death' threads.

 

[Stanley Parker]

Well the return to practicing set pieces after 2 years of not doing it shows that martinez really doesnt know what to do.

The reason of the 13/14 success is the connection of martinez's new ideas in terms of attacking football and the good defence we had under moyes.

Martinez did not rely on Moyes defensive policy at all - he introduced a new and original system! He relied on Baines and - in particular - Coleman to take the ball forward, and brought in Barry and McCarthy to provide defensive cover for the full backs. And his tactics were successful;

2012/13 6 Everton 38 16 15 7 55 40 +15 63 Moyes
2013/14 5 Everton 38 21 09 8 61 39 +22 72 Martinez

With Lukaku on loan, we not only scored more goals, we conceded one less, increasing our goal difference to 22.

Oh yes, Martinez' football was attractive to watch too!

If it is true that we have returned to practicing set pieces after 2 years of not doing it, then that shows that Martinez does know what to do. But nobody has said that he totally ignored corners and free kicks. He obviously does work on our corner kicks - yesterday, Baines was taking the corners from the left wing, and Cleverly the ones on the right.

Nevertheless, of the last three home games, two have been very disappointing.

 

[Polish_Blue_Army]

If it is true that we have returned to practicing set pieces after 2 years of not doing it, then that shows that Martinez does know what to do.

How ?

 

[riddick]

Bloody hell, getting hard to keep up with all these new 'Another reason to slate Martinez to death' threads.

orrrr.....maybe its just another thing that Martinez is seriously lacking in?

 

[BirkenheadBlue]

Bloody hell, getting hard to keep up with all these new 'Another reason to slate Martinez to death' threads.

Well to be fair, if there were less reasons, there'd be less threads.