Boss_Blue
I will find you and consensually bum you
My thoughts as well mate.Whatever suits really.
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My thoughts as well mate.Whatever suits really.
My thoughts as well mate.
I've had a good think about this since last night and I don't blame Bobby for the mess we are in. He is what he is. He has his own ideas and sticks by them no matter what.
I BLAME BILL.
Why oh why did he think it was ok to give any new manager total control of the playing side of the club. We were 6th best team in the land and first and foremost that status should have been protected. This wasn't like when Moyes was appointed as we were rubbish and needed the overhaul. Also Bobby isn't a Sir Alex or a Jose, he is a manager who had won an FA cup, League 1 title and also diced with relegation for 3 seasons before being relegated. Whoever was involved in these decisions needs a serious kicking. I remember Bill saying when appointing him that he showed him how he beat city in the cup final, wow if that was one of the reasons for giving total control then Bill needs the longest kicking.
I think Bobby is the perfect image for our club, young, handsome, Spanish and perfect shoes. But he should have been put in as part of a team. Everton are bigger than any manager or player and the status of the club should have been protected at all costs. I believe Bobby wanting total control of LFC was the reason he didn't get the job there. His ideas added to what we already had in place could have been exciting for us.
So I've changed my stance slightly now from wanting him sacked to wanting a restructuring of the football side of the club were he isn't in sole control but is still our front man. I honestly believe that the job is too big for him on his own as it should be as we were 6th best in probably the best league in the world. We are too big as a club now to have just one man in charge.
No worries lid - I'll explain what I mean.Although I don't think leaving a team that was the 8th best in the Championship has particularly meant he established them as a mid table Premier League side, but there you go.
You're using glue, yes? You employ a manager, not a collective. If he's not up to that then he shouldn't be applying for anything...
Every lg place loses us a packed, you can bet bill would have thought top 8 was the least he could expect, so say 15th is going to be a big hole in fianance, can he afford to keep him?Cash Mate...
I bet bills finger is on the trigger but the money side of it is making him ponder!
Every lg place loses us a packed, you can bet bill would have thought top 8 was the least he could expect, so say 15th is going to be a big hole in fianance, can he afford to keep him?
I keep wanting to see him grasp the problems and shake it up, learn from his mistake and be ruthless, but it hasn't happened yet , next two lg games we need at least a bit of passion players fighting over everything like there life depends on it, even if the results don't go for us at least we know they are up for a fight , if he can't get that out of them at least he has to go.
Hope your right, but what happens when we get a team that gets behind the ball, like the Italians are masters of we haven't done to we'll against the might of wb a etc so it's a nice dream to have but still a bit awayWhen we win europa it'll make up the cash difference
No worries lid - I'll explain what I mean.
Martinez established a style of play at Swansea that ran throughout the core of the club, from the youth setup to the first team. The success that they've enjoyed since then has been due to this foundation (in my opinion).
He attempted the same with Wigan but was unable to maintain their top flight status and instead signed off with the FA Cup.
His successes prior to joining us are an indication of what could go right (long term sustainable foundation for quality football and winning trophies), but also what could go wrong (club unable to adjust to style of play effectively and consequently falls apart).
These last two seasons have almost been microcosms of Martinez career with a record points total in the Premier League subsequently followed by this arse chocolate of a campaign.
As a result there is plenty of ammunition for both sides of the argument regarding whether or not he should be given more time.
I for one would like to see the Swansea scenario which given the disparity in our club's size should mean a similar difference in our future (heightened) success.
Or we could drop down the leagues faster than Goats mar's knickers.
We will just have to wait and see which scenario plays out (before furiously vaulting each other like the bellends we all are).
So you'd be happy for anyone to come in and totally change the way the club is run to an unproven way when there was nothing really wrong with it? I'm not saying we should have a director of football as that's the same with one person in charge but there should have been a team above the manager preserving the way the club had been run successfully for years (oh wait we did they are called the board).
Yep, it is shameful, but we've got to look at it from a different perspective. We're all hurting, worried and calling for the managers head immediately, but there are no other alternatives who would take the job and guarantee us safety.We are heading for relegation serving up dross.
2 wins in 16 with 9 defeats with these players is shameful
The tactics are insane he has lost it mate.
We stand a better chance with a new man with fresh ideas and playing to the strength of our players.
Martinez reminds me of lambert at villa clueless watching it fall in around him.
Its a gamble whatever bill does but I know where I would put my money.
But this could also prove that it is only possible to lay foundations in the lower leagues as they are rebuilding season on season most of the time.